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In our group there are a lot of post war vehicles (wrong green :) ) and the
Guard or Reserves, and regular Army always wants to set up close. We have
started asking them to move away for the very problem you listed. Everyone
thinks there Government vehicles. I had one "gentleman" tell me his tax
dollars paid for them. I told him I don't think so. Also I am having signs
laminated to give out that say the following.
PLEASE
KEEP OFF
This historic military vehicle is privately owned and
has been restored by a member of the MVPA
MILITARY VEHICLE PRESERVATION ASSOCIATION
To help preserve it for others to enjoy,
PLEASE KEEP OFF
Fonts and sizes is different on original sign I do.
Frank Robertson
Memphis, TN. USA
"Miss Dixie" "Tha Thing"
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Of Jeanne Lacourse
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [MV] Car Crushing: Bad Idea?
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We have a policy in my club that if the Army/Reserves/NG are at a parade or
display we demand to be as far away from them as possible. The normal
recruits let the kids climb all over their vehicles. It is hard to stop the
kids if you are parked right next to the clamored over vehicles...
We also have the silly string problem. Kids squirt that all over the
vehicles. Sometimes it stains especially on a hot surface like a motorcycle
engine...
Steve AKA Dr Deuce (and Chevys too)
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From: Douglas Greville <dgrev@apollo.ruralnet.net.au>
To: Military Vehicles List <mil-veh@uller.skylee.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2000 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Car Crushing: Bad Idea?
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> Frank and others
>
> > That may be fine where you are, but if someone climbing on my tank or
> > armored car slips and falls I get sued and they may own both. I have a
set
> > of steps I set next to the M20 but as for as the tank goes unless I know
> > them it's look all you want but, no climbing. Lawyers make it this way
not
> > me.
>
> The suggestions that Frank has commented on are great. I too would like
> to see the reality of this sort of thing. But, I also share Frank's
> concerns.
> Short of sitting inside your vehicle, with at least one or 2 mates
> on guard duty on the exterior (attentive and not star gazing) then
> you are asking for trouble. The reality of kids inside something even
> seemingly indestructible as an AFV is that they BREAK THINGS! They
> walk on, swing from, fight over and pull your rare headsets, unless
> you have locked everything away that is. Even when you lock things down
> they will try and break them open "to see what's inside". Expect to find
> every control (including parking brakes) altered, light switches broken
> (not at all helpfull for the trip home), wiring torn from accessories
> etc.
> Ever had someone (usually an adult) get into your engine bay and remove
> radiator caps, dip sticks etc, of course they don't put them back, and
> if you don't discover what they have done you could end up with a seized
> engine.
> I won't go into the aspects of deliberate theft.
>
> A while back I caught a 16 year old girl and several friends actively
> destroying some of my property. When told to stop the response was
> "nobody owns it" when it was quite blatantly mine. How do you stop them?
> Try and find out who the parents are amongst thousands? Physically
> remove them? (Wouldn't that be great, instant label of child molestor).
> I succeeded by intimidation, but whilst I was talking to them, they did
> not stop what they were doing.
>
> Then there is the classic military AFV problem, each year, everyone's
> Armies have the problem of these fit/healthy young soldiers who fall
> off stationary AFV's and break parts of their anatomy. Let average
> Joe public loose on the top of your vehicle and after one or 2 incidents
> you are going to be uninsurable.
>
> I don't wish to be negitive, but it is necessary to be realistic.
>
> I attend an annual charity event where I did volunteer to provide tank
> rides, the organisers thanked me but declined as they perseeved it to
> be a Pandora's box if opened.
> So we answer questions, let people peer in through hatches etc: but
> only for 10 minute stretches allow people on the vehicles, when we do
> we stand there (at least 3 of us) and hand kids down and stop 5 kids
> all trying to use the one set of hand holds at once etc. After that
> we need some time to recover. It is not a case of just letting 2 on at
> a time because the instant one kid see's another on a tank, they all
> come running - they pay no attenion at all when you say "2 at a time".
>
> I think this is why you will find it is only the newer owners who
> allow access to their vehicles.
>
> I don't have the answers, am just pointing out a few things.
>
> Regards
> Doug
>
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