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> From: Rob Dabkowski <robdab@better.net>
> To: Amikesomm@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [MV] MVPA write-in
> Date: January 27, 2000 9:04 AM
>
> Mike, the whole point here is that the membership cannot change the
bylaws
> without the support of the existing board and the existing board controls
> (without having to explain why) who is on the ballot. No one who doesn't
> agree with the existing board can ever get elected so there is NO chance
of
> bylaw change ever happening.The current board is in fact, already elected
> for life. If they choose to allow no other names on future ballots, other
> than their own (no explanation required), then the membership cannot vote
for anyone else since
> write-in names are not counted (as per the current board's decision).
Even
> a mass protest of not voting doesn't help since the current board members
> can just count their own ballots and re-elect only themselves. If the
> membership wants to pay to belong to such a club, that is their right and
> they can go on paying their dues. Just don't believe the sham that there
is
> any kind of democracy or fair election happening here or that the
> membership actually has any voice at all in how the club is run, its
money
> spent or lobbying done. I have no doubt that Mr. Holland and company are
nice guys and
> believe that they are doing what is right for the hobby but a
dictatorship
> is still a dictatorship. Didn't the Colonies have a Boston Tea Party to
> protest something similar ? Robert (Toronto) .. too embarressed to give
my
> MVPA #
>
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> > From: Amikesomm@aol.com
> > To: Military Vehicles List <mil-veh@uller.skylee.com>
> > Subject: [MV] MVPA write-in
> > Date: January 27, 2000 12:52 AM
> >
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> > .......and once again from Virginia, that calm voice of reason (me)
> > speaks his weighty words of wisdom......... *ahem*
> > (if you guys aren't laughing already, you have NO sense of humor)
> >
> > Hey guys (and gals), if the mvpa rules are not specifically clear,
> it's
> > up to your board members to interpet them, right? If they interpet
them
> to
> > mean write ins are completely unacceptable without prior approval by
the
> > board, then all you who send mvpa your hard earned nickels need to make
a
>
> > policy change if you feel that's wrong.
> > Seems to me that if a write in has enough votes to out vote an
> approved
> > candidate for membership, then the sitting board needs to evaluate his
> > qualifications and decide whether or not he is "fit" to serve. If they
> > decide yes, he's in. If they decide no, he's not.
> > -If he "don't got the votes, it ain't an issue".
> > Sure it's reminicient of the good 'ol boy method of leadership and
> > teamwork that we Southerners are so very fond of, but if it's not what
> you
> > want, you need to change it in whatever manner your bylaws allow. I'm
> on
> > the board of directors of a fairly interesting small company (if only
it
> paid
> > better!!) and we allow anyone who wishes to to run for the board of
> > directors, and let the shareholders decide. That includes someone
> standing
> > up at the last minute before voting and announcing their decision to
run.
> We
> > assume the shareholders (who take a VERY active role in the company and
> it's
> > doings, and are physically present at most of the meetings) are able to
> make
> > up their minds and will vote accordingly, BUT that's already a part of
> our
> > bylaws. And the sitting board is the interpeter of the bylaws in all
> cases.
> > So fix what you don't like, and support what you like. After all,
> it's
> > your association, right?
> > ..........cool, I can see the forest from here!
> > Mike in the cheap seats
> >
> > (As a plug for Lee Holland, I must say whether you agree with him or
not
> on a
> > particular issue is not the issue. Now that I've gotten to know him he
> > strikes me as a good guy, a competent leader, and definitely a great
> believer
> > in preservation of our military heritage in many shapes and forms)
> > ps - still looking for vinyl M37 cabcover....... *laughter*
> >
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