My father-in-law was 4-F during WWII & worked in central IL un-crating
vehicles for local use. They came with wheels & steering wheel removed in
large crate via flat car. He had to install rims, air up tires, install
steering wheel & petroliums, install battery,start tune & test-run... I have
his photos from work showing crates & some in process. He indicates he did
this from mid '42 to late '44, shipping them back by rail to militry posts,
or in convoy for local assignment.
Dave
Daniel Terp wrote:
> Look, guys -
>
> I'm not saying that nobody ever crated a Jeep, hell just about
> anything conceivable has happened to a jeep at one time or another.
>
> And please don't send me a picture of a crated jeep, I know what a
> crate looks like.
>
> What I'm saying is that according to a guy that was involved in
> shipping more jeeps than you or I will ever see, this is not the way
> it was done at the arsenals. Most of this happened before I was born,
> but I see no reason why the guy would make this up, and he has lots of
> photos to back him up.
>
> He said that all jeeps (and anything else) arrived on rail cars, were
> stored in parking lots or warehouses (long term) and placed on ships
> using a crane. If the hold was deep and the vehicles small, they were
> placed on steel racks made specially for that purpose, up to 3 high.
> They were never crated in the US, at least not after 1940 when he
> started with the arsenal.
>
> I have a picture of some WC-51's on just such racks on the wall in my
> office. I can see the advantage over crating, the racks were lighter,
> more space efficient, waterproof and reusable. He said this was
> standard practice.
>
> Now if the army wanted to ship vehicles between bases, such as from
> Manilla to Guam, the jeeps would have to be crated as they didn't have
> the racking the arsenals had. But those vehicles would not be new, and
> the crates not original. Of course there were manuals and procedures
> for this, but that doesn't mean that was the way they were shipped
> new.
>
> Like I said, I can't see any reason the guy would lie to me, and he
> said if anyone told me about finding a shipment of jeeps "new in the
> crate" not to believe them.
>
> He gave me photos of jeeps being prepped for shipment. According to
> the photos, everything was prepped, run in and test driven before
> being shipped. Even DUKW's were water tested on the Raritan river
> (I've got pics of that too) That would mean each truck would have had
> to be un-crated, tested and re-crated for shipment. Sounds silly even
> for the army.
>
> If I told you all the stories I've heard about what was supposedly
> "discovered" at Raritan, it would make a book. People have told me
> they heard about jeeps, motorcycles, missiles, land mines and one
> story of a disassembled B-29 found in a warehouse. All bunk. All we
> found was old buildings and trash. If we had found anything you would
> bet it would be in my garage right now.
>
> Most of it was concocted by the newspapers. When somebody found an old
> steering wheel from a jeep in a ditch, the newspapers reported "jeep
> parts found". Never mind that the thing wasn't even useful as scrap.
>
> When somebody found a few dozen corroded anti-aircraft rounds the
> newspapers reported "unexploded missiles found at old arsenal". Before
> you knew it they were a dozen Regules Missiles, complete with nuclear
> warheads and packed in crates ready for shipment.
> I bet they sold a lot of newspapers.
>
> This I know first hand, I've seen it happen.
>
> If you want to say you bought a new jeep in a crate for $50, fine I'll
> believe you. But I still have the pics.
>
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