Geoff
Oh I hear you.. I got involved in the warbird space a good
15 years ago. During that time I have seen more stupid people,
bureaucrats and bad government policies screw thing up more often
than I care to think about.. A couple of earlier posts list out
some of the horror shows I've been sad witness to..
Think thats sad ?? a few months ago I got into a bidding war
with a fellow over this MINT QC110 1941 Chevy Crash truck at
one of the DMRO auctions.. I mean this puppy had spent all its
life indoors . Zero rust anywhere. They drove it to the auction
site..All the data plates and special accsoseries IE Pump and
such worked .. After the guy exceeded my budget to buy it I
had a quick chat with him.. Turns out he is going to cut the
fire fighting equipment off and MAKE A DUMP TRUCK OUT OF IT !!!!!
That was back in July.. I am still pissed off about it ....
Bob B
>From: Geoff Winnington-Ball <gwball@sympatico.ca>
>To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
>Subject: Re: [MV] "Memphis Belle" and More
>Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:01:59 -0500
>
>Amen to your last. What about the way a couple of enterprising gentlemen
>who
>recovered WW2 navy aircraft from the depths have had them confiscated by
>the
>U.S. Navy, who couldn't care less about the private money spent, or the
>lost
>dedication and resulting bad publicity these actions generated?
>
>MV-related content relevant to the thread: speaking of bureaucracy, in
>Canada,
>there are NO controls over private ownership of tank cannon or the like, I
>suppose because it's acknowledged that no ammunition can by nature and time
>exist in private hands. So far so good. HOWEVER, if you wish to bring one
>in to
>the country, ANOTHER bureaucracy will demand formal deactivation by cutting
>and
>welding, even though the item in question is legal WITHIN the country.
>
>So, take this as an example. Even though Canada manufactured 1,948 Ram and
>1,420
>Valentine tanks in WW2, not one running example exists in this country (for
>that
>matter, I know of no running Rams and only a handful of running BRITISH
>Valentines, anywhere). OK, I find a Canadian Ram or Valentine, someplace.
>It may
>be complete, but not running. Who cares, it's intact and original! What a
>find,
>an amazing piece of Canadian war history! I will pay a lot because of what
>it
>is, right off the bat, never mind whether it runs or not. Then I pay more
>to put
>it on a ship to bring back here. When I get here, in company with something
>priceless to the perpetuation of our history, this one department of our
>gummint
>will CONFISCATE it unless I have it butchered via the welder's torch - EVEN
>THOUGH IT'S LEGAL TO OWN COMPLETELY OPERATIONAL ONCE INSIDE THE COUNTRY.
>
>You Yanks especially, don't feel too sorry for yourselves re the Form 6
>issue -
>this same nonsense exists everywhere. All you can do is pound on the
>politicians
>- but realize that they only RENT their offices... the bureaucrats OWN
>them. We
>have an uphill battle ahead of us, fellows...
>
>Bureaucrats, whether in uniform or not, are a blight on our societies. T'is
>the
>nature of the beast within....
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Geoff Winnington-Ball
>MAPLE LEAF UP! ==>
>Zephyr, Ontario, Canada
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Maple Leaf Up - The Canadian Army Overseas in WW2
>http://www.mapleleafup.org
><sunray@mapleleafup.org>
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><info@1cacr.org>
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>
>
>
>Robert Barber wrote:
>
> > About as sad as the story for the Shoo-Shoo Baby now out at the
> > Air Force Museum .. In short she was a real combat vet.. One of
> > the TIGR people from Smithsonian found her hulk in an airfield
> > in Denmark (i believe)How it got there and the story of the orignal
> > pilot is another set of tails themselves. Contacted the original
> > pilot and he went to great lengths to get the plane brought back to
> > the US.
> >
> > The plane was totally restored by volunteers back to flyable
> > condition at an east coast Air Force base. Part of the deal
> > was that the still living original crew was to get a flight in
> > the plane as reward for helping getting it restored.. And don't
> > you know the Air Farce reneges on the promise and has the plane
> > flown to Ohio with minimum crew..
> >
> > The good news is they have an actual combat vet B-17 on display.
> > The bad news was the CS way they delt with the people who put
> > the time and energy into making it happen..
> >
> > Bottom line is too much politics involved where it belongs least.
>
>
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