Why are we getting this junk again about Jane Fonda. This does not belong
on this list. It is about military vehicles ONLY!
Stuart J. Ellis
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From: "jerome shaw" <fiveton_@excite.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 8:30 AM
Subject: [MV] Fwd: FW: Jane Fonda
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> > >
> > Subject: FW: Jane Fonda
> > Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 21:07:48 -0800
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Iisaic [SMTP:iisaic@home.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 3:27 PM
> > To: BEDEYJ@hood-emh3.army.mil; James Burke; Neil Reed; Robin; James
> Mills;
> > Louise Iverson; Martin Gomez; Bob Frey; Guy Karo; LAWRENCE COOPER;
> > POTCEE@cs.com; PAUL WILSON JR; Henry Routon; Jack Goss; Richard Miller;
> Ray
> > Ruby
> > Subject: Jane Fonda
> >
> >
> > Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century".
> > Unfortunately many have forgotten and still countless others have never
> > known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but
> specific
> > men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam. Part of my conviction
> > comes
> > from personal exposure to those who suffered her attentions. The first
> > part
> > of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll,
> > a River
> > Rat. The former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in
> > Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton". Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a
> > cell,
> > cleaned, fed, and dressed in
> > clean PJs, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace
> > Activist; the "lenient and humane treatment"; he'd received. He spat at
> > Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away. During the subsequent
beating,
> > He fell forward upon the camp commandant's feet, which sent that
officer
> > berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which
> > permanently
> > ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application
> > of a wooden baton.
> > >From 1963-75, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4Es). He spent
> > 6
> > years in the "Hilton" - the first three of which he was "missing in
> > action".
> > His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group,too, got
> > the cleaned/fed/clothed routine in preparation for a "peace
> > delegation"visit.
> > They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world
that
> > they still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his
> > SSN on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
> > cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking
> > little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?"
> > and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent
> > captors". Believing
> > this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She
> > took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once
the
> > camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she
turned
> > to the officer in charge ..... and handed him the little pile of
papers.
> > Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col.Carrigan was almost
> > number
> > four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her
actions
> > that day.
> > I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was
> captured
> > by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held
for
> > over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a
> > cage in Cambodia, and one year in a black box in Hanoi. My North
> > Vietnamese
> > captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse
> > in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the
> > jungle
> > near the Cambodian border. At one time, I was weighing approximately 90
> > lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war
criminals".
> > When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist
political
> > officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda. I said yes,for I
> > would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs were receiving,
> > which was far different from the treatment purported by the North
> > Vietnamese,
> > and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient". Because of this, I
> > spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms
with
> > a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo
cane
> > till my arms dipped. I had the
> > opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was
> > released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She
did
> > not answer me.
> > This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100
> > Years of Great Women". Lest we forget..."100 years of great women"
should
> > never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so
many
> > patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but
> > Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.
> > Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.
> > It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we
> > will never forget.
> > Charles (Skip) Klingman
> > Asst. Professor of Music
> > Southwestern Oklahoma State University
> > Weatherford, OK 73096
> > (580) 774-3219 FAX: (580) 774-3795
> >
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