Hey all!
After reading some of the stories: I can commiserate totally, I have been on
the receiving end of problems more times that I can count, but to the
assorted DMVs credit: 1- we are paying very little for the antique plates
and it is a bother to interrupt their routine to deal with them, and 2- the
clerks are trained to deal with the 999 regular registrations rather than
the 1 antique plate request that comes in during a day.
In a perfect world, yes they all would know the proper info, they would all
be polite, and there would be no lines, but that's not the real world (In a
perfect world, bolts would not break when we force them...).
I try to take the mindset with me to the DMV office that if someone does a
good job, I compliment them ,and I have even written letters to the
commissioner when a clerk went out of her way to make a solution happen.
When I run into the idiots that permeate the institution I chalk it up to
inbreeding.
Just my two cents.
Hank Fackovec
Former Civil Servant. (Well actually, I was not that civil! LOL)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hutterer" <john.hutterer@deltec.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] TITLE & REGISTRATION WOES
> Rob,
>
> I have a somewhat more involved story. I bought an M816 Wrecker in Ohio.
> Since it came out of GSA, it didn't have a title, just a Form 97. I called
> the Minnesota DMV nearly a year before purchasing the wrecker, knowing
that
> I would eventually be buying one, and wanting to be prepared. I have a
> friend who owns an M211 and he has "Collector" plates on it. This is a
plate
> that, in Minnesota, can be purchased to use on any vehicle that is at
least
> 25 years old. I called the DMV, as I said, about a year ago and was told
by
> the first person (1) that I spoke to that Collector plates could not be
put
> on a large truck, and that I would have to buy regular plates for it. They
> would cost about $550.00/year. I asked to talk to a supervisor (2) and she
> told me "Sure , you can put Collector plates on an Army truck, as long as
> it's 25 years old, or more." A year goes by and I end up buying the truck
in
> Ohio. I stop at the local office of the DMV, just to make sure that I can
> get Collector plates there. The guy behind the counter (3) (about 18 years
> old) tells me "Don't license it until you have owned it for more than a
> year. There is a provision in the law that allows you to do that, and
avoid
> paying sales tax on the purchase." This sounds good...too good. A couple
of
> days later, I called the main DMV office (4) to double check on this
> information. I was told that the clerk at the local office was in error
and
> that I should license the truck right away. Later that week, I stop at the
> local DMV and tell the girl behind the counter (5) (different clerk from
the
> first one I spoke to) that I want to get a Collector plate for my truck. I
> show her the form 97. She says that a truck that weighs 36,000 pounds
can't
> use a Collector plate. I politely tell her that I have checked with the
main
> office and they tell me that it can use a Collector plate. She calls the
> main office (6) and comes back and tells me that they say that I can't
have
> a collector plate. Also, the fee for a Collector plate is $20.00 plus a
one
> time $90.00 processing fee. She wants $550.00 for a regular plate, plus an
> additional $545.00 in Minnesota Sales Tax. I explain that I didn't buy the
> vehicle in Minnesota, and she says "That doesn't matter." I said, "Do you
> mean to tell me that, if I buy a TV in Wisconsin (which is only about 30
> miles from where I live) that I am supposed to pay Minnesota Sales Tax on
> it?" She says "Well, yeah." I don't bother to ask her if she would demand
to
> pay Minnesota Sales Tax to a Wisconsin sales clerk, because I'm sure that
> she has no idea of what she is talking about. I ask her where the main DMV
> office is. She gives me directions (to the wrong building), but I
eventually
> find the right one. I walk up to the Receptionist and explain the problems
> that I have been having. (7) She sends me to one of the really
knowledgeable
> clerks (8) that they have at the main office. This woman hears about half
of
> my story, gets really upset that I was treated so poorly, puts a "rush" on
> my paperwork, and sells me a set of Collector plates for the $20.00 fee,
> plus the $90.00 processing fee. She can't understand how anybody would
> believe that a purchase that occurred in Ohio would be subject to
Minnesota
> Sales Tax. I have numbered the various people that I spoke to during this
> odyssey, simply to try to keep track of them. Including the Receptionist
at
> the Main DMV Office, I spoke to eight different people, and got seven
> different stories. The story illustrates two points. The larger the
> organization, the more problems you are likely to experience, and,
> politeness and perseverance can straighten out some pretty messy
situations.
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: aussierob [mailto:aussierob@odyssey.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 3:16 PM
> To: mil-veh@mil-veh.org
> Subject: [MV] TITLE & REGISTRATION WOES
>
>
> After the disgusting treatment Ron has just written about (Monday
afternoon
> posting) while trying to get his vehicle on the road...
> Are there any among us that can tell us "from Experience" which states
tend
> to act "insane" or
> Which states seem to be "generally helpful" to us the taxpayers who need
to
> put an old un-titled vehicle back on the road.
>
> There HAS to be at least ONE friendly state when it comes to all this
woeful
> bull*** !!!!!
>
> Any happy ending stories out there?
>
> Ol' Jeep Breath
> Upstate NY
> 42MB it is actually registered.
> But I have 3 others (CJ2As) whereby I start to tremble in my boots,
> regarding Titles and Registration Woes
>
>
>
>
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