I will ask the computer guy at work if he uses CARNIVORE or if he knows of
it. I have never heard of it but it could be a headquarters thing.
Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay <dagobertii@home.com>
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] FBI at Door!!!!!
> I hate to tell the numbnuts jerk at [the site], but has anyone here
> ever heard of CARNIVORE? It's the FBI's version of the Internet
> moniteering program similier to what the NSA does on international
> transmissions, and it's set up to alert them to any kind of threatening
> activity by scanning for certain keywords in messages, and flagging
> those messages with the keywords in them to be checked. It's actually
> not a bad idea, from a counterterrorism aspect, although by now I'm sure
> our little list has already long since been "flagged" and inspected, and
> having determined that while we have an unusual interest, there aren't
> any terrorist types amongst us. That's their job, and franky we're
> probably safer for their doing it. BUT when some asshole like the
> gunbroker guy turns around and starts making false accusations against
> us to them, that opens the door for those in the agency who may be
> looking for any excuse to "flex their muscles". I'm no criminal-
> opinionated, perhaps, but no criminal, and I resent his implying so.
> Like I said, we all need to complain to this guy's ISP about about his
> actions. And for a fellow NRA-type to do this embarasses me all the more.
>
> DaveCole wrote:
>
> > Heck, why not just tell them the URL of the Archive site, if anyone
asks?
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > M35products@aol.com wrote:
> >
> >> In a message dated 4/24/01 6:21:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> >> annak@thegrid.net writes:
> >>
> >> << I think I may have the biggest bitch hear over this Virus at least
in this
> >> group. This [person] told the FBI I had purposefully sent him the
Virus
> >> two days ago and he claims I am a criminal and this "MV" "I told them
what
> >> we talk about, but they cant believe we actually just talk about truck
and
> >> such" group my have something to due with the virus. They say they may
come
> >> back and take my computer for evidentiary..... >>
> >>
> >> ATTENTION: I believe that we are all on notice, if this member's fears
are
> >> anything near justified. Prepare for the worst, and you won't be
> >> disappointed, as the DI used to say. Let's be ready to explain, calmly
and
> >> clearly, to any law-enforcement types who inquire, just what it is we
do
> >> here. I suggest that one of us (perhaps the list members who have been
around
> >> the longest can decide who, in an off-list discussion) act as
semi-official
> >> spokesperson. (Just my 10,000 yen.) A P Bloom
> >>
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