Kevin,
Since you also chose to flame me publicly, I'm posting this to the list, albeit with more class than either you or David used.
I agree with all that you said, and I wouldn't have had a problem, until it came to his last line and the remark about the "Pike" being a bottom feeder. It was a no class over the line remark. He made his point, until he did that. Reprisal is one thing, and name calling is quite another. I think it was childish.
When you select a vendor to give your hard earned money to, it's always nice to see ahead of time how you will be treated if a misunderstanding occurs. I think David made that clear in his post...I won't be buying from him, and that's too bad, because he was on my list of possible sources for my new truck canvases. I've been in the situation plenty of times where a vendor for some reason doesn't fill an order properly, whether by negligence, or error, and I won't be talked to like that.
Professionalism has no substitute, and when you deal with the public, sometimes you have to eat your words...that's the best reason I can think of not to say any sour ones.
The funny thing is, I never saw Pike's original post, but now I'll go hunting for it in the archives. David would have been better off keeping his mouth shut and dealing with this privately. Now that he has counterattacked, he has brought MUCH more attention to the matter. Ghengis Khan, the famous Mongolian warrior, once said " If you sit by the river long enough, the bodies of your enemies always come floating by."
Nuff said!
Best regards,
Jack
In a message dated Mon, 9 Jul 2001 9:53:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "Kevin" <willys@javanet.com> writes:
<< Well, I've been following this little soap opera for the past week and had
to jump in at some point and I guess this is it.
Jack, I don't know you or wish you any ill will...BUT, how can any vendor
sit back while someone calls him a cheat. I know it's a popular theme to
flame vendors and complain about prices and such but this is pretty slimy.
Jack, let's say you produce a product, any product, and it's of superior
quality, workmanship and price. And while all of your customers know and
appreciate your talents, those without any previous basis of knowledge see
the post written by "PIKE" and immediately think you are running on
questionable ethics. How is this new person going to discern the truth?
Probably not by ordering from you, but by looking for the cheapest price
(and workmanship).
For you to suggest that someone should sit idly by while getting nuked is
puzzling. I personally applaud David's humorous response to "PIKE"'s
apparent confusion of the facts.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: <Cougarjack@aol.com>
To: <ODCLOTH@aol.com>
Cc: <mil-veh@uller.skylee.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Still Trolling for PIKE. Pike Bishop where are you?!
> Wow, David, I bet THAT really helped your business!
> Why not jst ignore baiting and get on with making good canvas? That's
what's gonna preserve your rep, not name calling.
> Jack
> In a message dated Sat, 7 Jul 2001 10:35:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ODCLOTH@aol.com writes:
>
> <<
> Pike Bishop, where are you?
> As it's been nearly a week since you Flamed me on the list by posting your
> outright LIES, I'm perplexed as to why you won't respond to me. Your
initial
> statement (LIE)
> <" they don't answer me either. I have sent them many emails for several
> months now, WITH NO ANSWER! You reckon they've been on vacation for over a
> year?!!">,
> indicates that I have not responded to your "Imagined Inquiries". As I
have
> since sent you and the list several messages inviting you to respond, and
> have had NO RESPONSE from you, I must once again state that "You Sir are a
> DAMNED LIAR!".
> Again, I invite your response. If you would like, kindly provide me w/ an
> address or phone number, and I'll gladly contact you.
> You should be careful in the future when opening your big mouth in a
feeding
> frenzy, particularly when falsely attacking someone's integrity and
> reputation. Sometimes the Bait Bites Back!
> Feel free to contact me when you decide to come to the surface again!
> Pike eh? Strikes me as more of a Bottom Feeder.
>
> David Pizzoferrato
> Pizzoferrato Enterprises/Weebee Webbing
> 341 Township Rd. 286
> Richmond, Ohio 43944
> (740) 765-5357
> <A HREF="http://www.odcloth.com/">www.ODcloth.com</A>
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