Ignorant
----- Original Message -----
From: John A. Hern Jr <hern@nidlink.com>
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:42 PM
Subject: [MV] Cops Good - Feds Bad
> More stuff you really don't want to read - better delete this now.
> You've been warned... :-)
>
> OK guys, let's not get to stereotyping critics, either! The anti-
> comments earlier were directed at feds, not cops. REPEAT: Feds, not
> cops. Just because the feds have started wearing uniforms, doesn't make
> them cops, any more than Fish and Game officers or private security
> police are cops. The slightest bit of reflection will make a person
> realize that without cops and the military we'd be in anarchy, defending
> ourselves against a howling mob of teen age punks bent on mayhem. Think
> Watts Riots, Genghis Khan, Pancho Villa, etc.
>
> The Ruby Ridge thing, and also Waco, was not cops. It was feds who are
> cop wanna-bees. I don't know about any cops shooting women holding
> babies in the face, or burning alive men, women, and children to hide
> the evidence. But, from what I've seen, it's SOP with the feds. The
> sting operations I've experienced have also been run by feds, not cops.
> I personally am a cop-a-phile, and go out of my way to help cops and try
> to I help make their difficult jobs and difficult lives easier. I
> couldn't count the number of times I've paid for the lunch of a group of
> cops in some diner I was leaving; or the amount I've contributed to
> various cop activities. In Idaho, we don't have bad cops like I hear
> about other places, so I can't personally relate to that sort of
> situation. However, since we're a right wing state, and that's like
> painting a target on our backs, we get deluged with feds way out of
> proportion to our population.
>
> Same with the military; who are really more or less super cops on a
> national scale; and after all, this is an MV list, so we are all
> military supporters, eh? We're not dealing with some cocaine corrupted
> south American bunch of hoodlums, we're talking about one of the best
> military forces the world has ever seen - just like our cops. But our
> feds are no better than the crookedest of the third world secret police,
> they just try to exude an aura of legality as they destroy the "enemies
> of the state."
>
> As to the legal details of a sting, there's more to getting a guy than
> putting him behind bars. In the Weaver case, they entrapped him with a
> shotgun sale so they could get an informant inside Butler's Aryan
> Nations outfit, he refused to co-operate, so they decided to drag him
> through the court system. He further refused, and so they decided to go
> in shooting and the rest is history.
>
> (BTW, I know Butler, he's a frail, harmless 80 year old man, who happens
> to think his people are better than anyone else. Pretty much the same
> as the Black Power guys, or the Native American folks. Thing is, he
> happens to be the wrong race, i.e. white; so he's a racist. Which he
> is, and as a result, got ruined, bankrupted, and thrown out on the
> street with nothing, at 80 years of age by the Southern Poverty Law
> Conference big gun attorneys. ((So what the hell were *they* doing up
> in Idaho?)) If it wasn't for federal informants, who made up about 70%
> of the people in his group at any one time, and about 95% of the funding
> of that group; and for the free publicity from the media looking for
> scary stories to write, he would have been out of business years ago.
> And no, I don't belong to his outfit or any others like it.)
>
> Finally, if cops had been in charge of Ruby Ridge or Waco, nothing would
> have ever come of it. The guys would have been served with their
> papers, or taken down to the station, and that would have been that.
> But the feds wanted a "newsworthy event" before Budget Time, and as a
> result, lots of people were murdered. So I'll repeat - if the feds come
> busting down your door, shoot 'em in the face. You're dead anyway, take
> as many of the bastards with you as you can.
> --
>
> John
>
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