Ron, at the time when we should be united in preserving what is our private
property I cannot support your criticism of Darrel's post. I guess there is
a clear difference between us that reenact, vs the car show crowd that
would never put their MV into the field because the paint might get
scratched. Myself, I am a Class III Firearms Dealer and the vast majority
of reenacters have weapons that are duly registered with the government
which requires an extensive background check including finger prints and
mug shot with the FBI and BATF. There are a few live registered artillery
pieces, mortars and bazookas out their. All of the reenacter artillery
pieces and tank guns I have seen on the reenacter battle field have the
breeches cut and welded up and have either been converted to propane, or
use a 12 Gauge shotgun blank. Mortars are black powder with a small
lifting charge and a small charge to pop a bag of flower. Our Bazooka uses
a 12 Ga Blank and does not project a projectile. I have shared the thrill
as has Darrell yet I have full respect for the combat soldier that I and my
men portray. To label groups such as ours as a possible terrorist group is
DEAD wrong. I know our local politicians know who we are from parades and
events. Our relationship with the public is what will save the hobby,
whether it be MV, or reenacting.
> [Original Message]
> From: Ron <rojoha@mediaone.net>
> To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Date: 10/8/01 11:33:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Sme demilled weaopnry.
>
> Darrell:
>
> OUTSTANDING COMMENT!!!!
>
>
> If any Congressional staffers happen to "drop in" to the list to
> check out what type of outstanding citizens collect harmless 'HMV's', your
> IDIOTIC statement will definitely send them scurrying back with info about
> Nutcases driving fully operational armored vehicles with functional main
> guns being out there.
> Please don't help us by offering to your states congressional
delegation
> to bring your toy to Capitol Hill and taking them for rides. In fact don't
> call them at all. If you really want to help, just bring your tank,
complete
> with ready rounds, to Washington and just drive up to the Capitol to 'Show
> how helpful' you can be in defending them from 'Furringers'. Start by
taking
> out any Toyota pickups (potential Technicals). You may want to make sure
you
> bring enough ammo for the coax 50, since all those 'terrorists' dressed in
> cammies cruising around in stolen HUMMV's may try to stop you from
reaching
> the Capitol to defend your elected officials. Hose em all!
> And if you think tracking and taking out targets with a main gun in a
> pasture or sand pit is a thrill, well old buddy, prepare to get your fun
> meter pegged!!! Just wait for the old adrenaline rush when the first
5.56mm
> wangs off your glacis !!!! WHOOOOEEEEEE!!!! Gunner! Target! Bradley!! 3
> o'clock! SABOT! UP! FI....
>
> Announcer (off camera) over feed of a smoking something in front of
the
> Capitol, "We interrupt with Breaking News!!! An apparent attempt by Bin
> Laden 'sleeper' units to reply to attacks on their bases in Afghanistan
was
> decisevly answered by Army units deployed around the Capitol, just moments
> ago. What appeared to be an old U.S. Army tank raced off a low bed
trailer.
> In an attempt to cause confusion, the terrorists were flying American and
> Confederate flags and playing Lee Greenwood's "Proud to Be An American"
over
> a PA speaker.
> Lt. Col. William Dexter, Division Commander of the 82nd Airborne units
> deployed around the Capitol, said " Hell, that old piece of crap weren't
no
> threat to US. But to a peaceable civilian neighborhood, now that could
cause
> some real problems. We've recommend that all vehicles that look like they
> could be used to carry arms be seized, so incidents like this can't happen
> again. You know, Suburbans, pickups, Crown Vic's. Outlaw snow plows. Make
> everyone WALK. That way they can only transport as much explosive as they
> can carry. We'd like to see the laws changed so that people go naked too,
so
> we can be positive of their intent on sight.
> Now... We took 30 seconds to kill that antique, not cause we was slow,
> but because the fire teams were arguing which one should take it, seeing
> their are 14 tow units here and only one target. These boys we're up
> against just don't realize, If ya can't run with the big dogs, stay on the
> porch! Ya'll can rest easy, Airborne's on Duty!"
> (Heard in background, shouted, 'ALL THE WAY!!!! OOOOOH-RAAAAAHHHH!!')
> "We'll be back after these messages......" "This is .....SEE EN
EN...."
>
> Wait a minute, maybe Darrell is a staffer for Schumer or Hillary.....
> Yea, that's it. He's a troll. No MV owner could be that stupid...
> Right?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Darrell Shake" <armor2@iglou.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:00 PM
> Subject: [MV] Sme demilled weaopnry.
>
>
> > List. I read Steve Allens comment about redefinig SME to exclude Hmvs
> > and the problem I have is the demilled weaponry .If youve never done a
> > reinactment in a piece of armor with a live main gun you havent done it
> > all yet. Loading and firing rounds in the main gun and the thrill of
> > aquiring and firing on targets is some kind of fun. If were brow beaten
> > into this Im sure that other provisions will come later.I sure hope they
> > dont allow this part to happen. Darrell.
> >
> >
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