I have to get serious about all of this. You'd be
amazed at what I've torn out of houses and businesses
that were supposed to have been "inspected". It
scares me!! Its very much like dis-arming a bomb,
there's no way to tell what they've done.
Don't think the big corporations are any better, I've
seen Eastman-Kodak's, Bausch & Lomb's, Xerox's
electrical work. Worked for them for YEARS!!! They
have some of the best people working for them and they
do some impressive work, but they still have some
people who just don't understand what they're doing.
The scariest of all was what I tore out of the
National Fuel Gas compressor station!! I personally
chewed the Engineer's and the head maintenance
electrician's(union, too) butts for not understanding
why they lost the control circuits on a fan system
when the emergency generator came on. This after
driving almost 2 hours to do a service call on the
same system 6 months after I'd explained the problem
to them,....... they didn't believe me, they didn't
understand what I was talking about.
Um,.... they got it now.
No, I don't know everything about it,........ but YOU
guys aren't prepared to argue with me.
Tom (INDUSTELE), what they did was to put two 120 volt
breakers into a 240 volt delta panel with no neutral
in it, the generator had no neutral coming from it,
the commercial power was center tapped and grounded at
the pole, the neutral wasn't brought into the building
so it "worked" on commercial and died on gen power.
240 volts acrossed the two loads allowed them to
"kinda work" (or not).
You guys go ahead and do whatever you think you can
get away with.
Joe
--- aussierob <aussierob@odyssey.net> wrote:
> Mr Foley Hello Its Rob here again;
> I do Totally agree with your first statement.
> All neutral and ground are connected at the box and
> at the pole transformer
> another ground is run down the pole on the street
> ...at least, in my area
> of the woods.
>
> The previous writers message appears below.
> As far as the many homes "not" maintaining total
> seperation of Neutral and
> ground.
> I find that there is no rerlationship to that
> statement as far as a
> backfeeding of power to the street from a Lil'
> generators if the house is
> not diconnected from the street during the use of
> genarator.
>
> In fact quite the opposite ;
> If they actually "did" maintian total separation of
> the Neutral and Ground
> then there could be a "low voltage" feed back to the
> pole and transformer
> whereby the neutral wire might carry a vltage trhoug
> an electric clock or
> lightbulb etc. This would be quite a low current and
> low lower voltage.
>
> Still I can't image an Electric Company connecting
> to a house that is
> incorrectly wired out of the housebox to pole
> connections.
> Rob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Foley" <redmenaced@yahoo.com>
>
> Previous writers message:
> > Here goes: My information source (commercial and
> > industrial electrician) warns that turning off
> the
> > main breaker and backfeeding 220-240V
> > is not absolutely safe to anyone working on the
> > exterior lines. This is because of backfeed thru
> > the neutral. Many homes when wired did
> > not maintain total separation of the neutral and
> > ground.
> >
>
> Mr Foley writes. in reply to a previous writers
> message - above.
>
> > He's full of shit!
> > ALL neutrals and grounds are connected at the main
> > panel, read it in the National Electrical Code!!
>
>
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