To cut along story short
1. Most viruses come as *attachments*. The List will *not* forward
attachments. So no problem and no discussion of this topic on the List.
2. I am using the latest version of Outlook Express and, with no guidance
from me, it does *not* autorun attachments so no prob anyway if you use
common sense. Anyone who opens an unsolicited file called, say, sex.exe can
only expect trouble.
3 I am protected by a regularly updated Norton Antivirus program. This
has more than once picked up the Badtrans virus from List traffic - which I
believe is imbedded in the general text of the message and is therefore not
detectable when one is browsing messages. A message from Russ Morgan was so
detected.and when I e mailed him a warning, this message bounced.
4. If it is true that we are now spreading viruses in the body of List
traffic e mails, then I should have thought that was a legitimate cause for
concern and discussion on List.
5. For my part, I will happily go on reading and acting upon List
propogated information regarding this latest (and more dangerous) type of
virus until one of the MV oriented computer geeks amongst us posts a brief
explanation and an effective and guaranteed fix. Conversation about
attachment carried viruses is boring and off topic.
Luv to all. Mike S. RR Services . UK
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Newton" <jnewton@laurel.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Off topic virus warnings...
Hello List...
MV Content...does anyone need soft HMMWV doors cheap?
>I have received 7 viruses from this list in the past 36 hours. If this is
>not worthy of discussion, and is not of sufficient importance to be
>mentioned on the list, then I need to find a new forum for my interest in
>military vehicles.
>
>I will NOT be bombarded with viruses and then told to keep quiet about it.
I must agree totally with Joe on this.
>There is another list on yahoogroups that has not propagated one single
>virus in the time I have been a member. The reason is that yahoo filters
>the mail. If anyone else feels the same way I do about this, the address
is
>mvlist-subscribe@yahoogroups.com.
As a few of you know, I own two successful Internet companies here in
the Silicon Valley (not dot-bombs) that support my MV hobby and then
some. I would be more than willing to host this mil-veh.org list and
provide complete attachment filtering if I thought it would help.
However, in the recent rash of viruses, such filtering would NOT have
prevented the viruses from reaching members. Let me explain:
Each of the viruses that we have received have reached us directly
(look at the "To:" field in the messages...you'll see your actual
email address...go ahead and look at the headers in one of the virus
emails then come back and read the rest of this message). Messages
addressed to this list reach each of us with our email address nowhere
in the message or headers...the list uses the "BCc:" field to send out
the messages, and the email server strips off the addresses (again, go
ahead and look at the headers, then come back). These email viruses
look through your Outlook address book and send messages with viral
attachments to all those in your address book, and some of the new
viruses look in your Outlook INBOX and OUTBOX to get addresses and
subject titles. Viruses cannot be propagated through the mil-veh.org
list because it is impossible to attach ANY file to messages sent to
this list address thanks to the folks that set it up and considered
this problem long ago (thanks to them!). The viruses probably TRIED
to send themselves to the list address tens of thousands of times, but
the mil-veh.org server shielded us all from the onslaught.
The YahooGroups list has not propagated any virus messages because
that is not how the viruses spread. If you had replied directly to
anyone on the YahooGroups list by their actual email addresses, and/or
received correspondence directly from them, then this virus and the
other worms WOULD have attacked you or the recipient.
I have set up my companies' email servers to filter out all suspect
attachments (.exe, .dll, .vbs, .scr, .pif, .bat, etc.), so even if I
were silly enough to use Outlook I would not be affected because no
virus that could execute would ever reach me. But as I said before I
use Agent from Forte Inc. so auto-launch is not a problem.
These viruses DO affect our communications about our beloved MV hobby,
and if enough viruses attack us then we might stop communicating,
which would affect all of us severely. I do not equate this
admittedly off-topic subject of viruses to blatant spam and other
unsolicited and unwarranted topics I have seen in the past.
Thank you.
--Jim "Ike" Newton
o 1984 M1007 CUCV Military Suburban 6.2 Liter Turbo-Diesel Engine 5/4 Ton Cargo Capacity, 4WD
o 1971 M35A2 Military Troop/Cargo Truck "Deuce and a Half" 478 Cubic Inch Turbo-Diesel Multi-Fuel Engine Air Shift Front Axle 2 1/2 Ton Cargo Capacity, 6WD
See them at: http://www.CUCV.net
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