From: HOWARD WRIGHT (dvsww2@mindspring.com)
Date: Mon Mar 11 2002 - 12:15:03 PST
I've sold a bunch on Ebay and bought a lot of stuff too. One Power Seller
who was selling electric winches. What I didn't notice that in very small
print they posted there shipping price which was nearly double of what it
should have been. I posted negative feedback on them that they were
ripping people off on shipping and even though I sent them a money order
for the winch they returned my payment, refusing it. Again I contacted
Safe Harbor that did nothing. Finally since I needed the winch I had a
friend bid it , used my same MO and had it shipped to him. I guess the
moral to the story is is to read the auctions completely and watch out for
"power sellers" who are selling a large quantity of the same item at cheap
prices. In this case they were making their profit out of a high shipping
price.
> [Original Message]
> From: Pete & Renee Davis <pandr@cybertours.com>
> To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Date: 3/10/02 8:01:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] The perils of honesty on eBay
>
> Yes! I got one of those, too. Admittedly, I had not made myself clear
> when I told the seller
> that I was a bit pissed off (Big power seller too busy to read my
> message that payment was
> sent. Then they did an automated Late Payment message to me) but the
> tone was the same. You
> could see this woman getting more and more worked up as she responded.
> "Don't ever bid
> again. I am blocking your bid and any response to this message. Of
> course you'll leave your
> pithy little feedback to justify yourself." Blah blah blah. Whoa, lady!
> Switch to decaf! In
> truth, I never left any feedback; a combination of not wanting to stoop
> to her level and my
> mother always saying, "If you don't have anything nice to say about
> someone, don't say
> anything at all."
>
> The ultimate irony was that the transaction was actually very good. I
> just wanted to make
> the point that they should read their e-mail. I guess I'm just one those
> folks who sees
> e-bay as a big yard sale rather than a big business; the interaction
> with the seller is part
> of what I enjoy the most.
>
> Pete Davis
>
> "J. Forster" wrote:
>
> > Pete & Renee Davis wrote:
> >
> > > John is right; the E-bay system is indeed flawed.
> > >
> > > Some sellers will wait to see what feedback you give them and then
retaliate if
> > > they're not satisfied.
> >
> > What a coincidence. This just came in:
> >
> > "Subject: eBay View User Feedback for mightbuyit
> > Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:11:04 -0600
> > From: Thomas Tottleben <tomtot@charter.net>
> > To: jfor@quik.com
> >
> > In view of what has transpired, please do yourself and me a favor and
do not ever bid on
> > any of my auctions again. If you do , I will refuse to sell to you.
Do not respond to
> > this message as I am not interested in what you have to say."
> >
> > Kinda speaks for the guy, doesn't it? He doesn't like the fact that i
was honest about
> > his performance. He has other negative FB for the same reasons.
> >
> > > I don't remember if e-bay actually has a policy, but IMHO the
seller's job is finished
> > > when they ship the item and that is when they should leave their
feedback, based on
> > > the buyer's performance after the sale.
> >
> > I disagree. The buyer has completed his obligation when the item is
paid for, and is
> > entitled to positive FB at that time.
> >
> > > The appropriate time for the buyer to leave feedback is after they
receive their item.
> >
> > Right. As long as it is in the condition described and has been
properly packed, etc.
> >
> > > Fortunately, we have had overwhelmingly positive experiences and have
not had to leave
> > > negative feedback. In the long run, I feel that e-bay's first loyalty
is to their
> > > sellers; that is where they make they're money. Unfortunately, they
don't really seem
> > > to care very much for the "little guy"; the buyer.
> >
> > RIGHT ON !!!
> >
> > > Just my rant for the day.
> >
> > And mine too. LoL.-J
> >
> > Pete Davis
> >
> > > David Jenkins wrote:
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > > Why would you post a positive feedback for someone who was so
difficult. If they
> > > were slow and unhelpful let them know with negative feedback.
> > > > Dj
> > > >
> > > > "J. Forster" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In mid January, I bought an item on eBay with Buy It Now and
paid the seller
> > > within a few days with a USPS Money Order. Seven weeks later, no item
and no response
> > > to emails. I called the seller and was told the item had been
shipped, but the seller
> > > would not give me the Tracking Number, either on the phone or by
email.
> > > > >
> > > > > I then filed a complaint with eBay, since there is a 60 day limit
on fraud
> > > claims. A week later the item finally turned up. I posted POSITIVE FB
with the comment
> > > "very slow shipment" and "poor emails" and got a neutral FB for my
trouble.
> > > > >
> > > > > Obviously, the eBay FB system is badly flawed. Obviously, HONESTY
DOES NOT PAY on
> > > eBay.
> > > > > -John
>
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