From: mirage (mirage@eclipse.net)
Date: Wed Mar 20 2002 - 07:34:44 PST
> Travis to date the track as an early or late version
> is
> 1)if the rear tension idler spring on the tracks is not there on real
early
> versions prior to 9/42
> then a light duty single coil followed until 7/43
> a heavy duty double coil was fitted the dates are for Modification work
> orders. I assume the factory dates were close.
> 2)Headlights
> 3)The frame on the early tracks were single channel the later were double
> framed the single channels had a tendency to crack at the rear axle look
at
> the
> frame at the rear axle and see if its been repaired or strengthened.
> 4)Diamond plating on the floor Aluminum very early
> 41,42 then steel diamond plating.
>
> I hope this helps
>
> Doug
> M2 converted to M2A1 then to a M4
> 6/42 GPW
> M7 Trailer
>
> mirage@eclipse.net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Travis S." <tls2771@attbi.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 5:35 AM
> Subject: [MV] Halftrack Identification
>
>
> > I was just going to ask for help in deterring the year of my White
> halftrack
> > but as I sit here studying the data plate I have more questions. When I
> > bought the track I was told it was an M16 and it look's like a straight
> M16,
> > it has the folding armor and all the armor on it is original ( non-repro
> at
> > any rate). The mfgrs. data plate is steel and badly rusted but I can
make
> > out the serial # 297973 and the Ord # 1820, these numbers are small but
> > deeply struck, this serial number matches the number on the frame. Now
the
> > odd thing is that it's labeled GUN MOTOR CARRIAGE M3 and then next to
the
> 3
> > a 16 has been struck ( no A1 though) the 3 is hard to see and I thought
> > maybe it was just the rust making a pattern and not really a 3 at all,
but
> > now I think it is a 3 and the 16 was added.The thing that I just noticed
> > tonight is that there is also a second serial number stamped over the
top
> of
> > the original one. These numbers are larger in size but shallow and hard
to
> > see, the numbers are 282810 any idea's as to what's going on here? I
have
> a
> > friend with an M16 parts track and the data plate clearly say's M16 with
> no
> > 3 and one serial #. I thought that M16's came from the factory as M16's
(
> > not modified but purpose built) and that the M16A1's were made by
> modifying
> > M3's because there weren't enough M16's to go around. My track is
stamped
> > with a 16 not a 16A1 and besides, 16A1's didn't have folding armor. So
is
> > this track an M3 that was field modified into an M16, folding armor and
> all
> > and then given a new serial # ? If so I didn't know that it was done in
> > this way.
> > On another note, is there anyway I can date this track? Anything like
> > difference's in suspension or running gear or armor that might tell me
if
> > it's early or late war? I'm going to apply for a title and I need to
give
> it
> > a date, I'd hate to title it as a 44 or 45 and have someone tell me
later
> > that it's clearly early war or vice-versa. I hope that some of this post
> > made sense and thank's for any help.
> >
> > Travis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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