RE: [MV] Welding

From: Glen Bedel (GBedel@designforum.com)
Date: Tue Apr 23 2002 - 07:23:14 PDT


"Good Show"! Henry

-----Original Message-----
From: ygmir [mailto:ygmir@onemain.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:17 AM
To: mil-veh@mil-veh.org
Subject: Re: [MV] Welding

Hi all,
It's called "forge welding" and is a little more complicated, but not very.
For joining pieces of steel:
Metal is heated to yellow hot, just as it starts to spark, borax is applied
(other materials can be used, borax is just easy and cheap) to surfaces to
be joined and allowed to melt. This excludes oxygen from the surface of
metals to be joined. surfaces are then put together and hammered repeatedly.
this forces the borax out of the joint and allows the raw steel to mix on
the molecular level, without the presence of oxygen. It also aligns the
molecules and stretches the metal. done correctly, this is a preferred way
to join metals since it essentially makes them one piece of steel, and can
be done over a large area, as opposed to welding beads being laid.
The folded steel of edged weapons made this way is very strong. there are
many theories as to why, but all is not understood about the reasoning.
Ancient edged weapons made this way, with sometimes hundreds of folds, are
harder and 'tougher', than anything around now.
Hmmm, a little long winded, I guess. Sorry.
Henry ( frustrated blacksmith)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Shannon" <fordpart@bellsouth.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 5:54 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Welding

> I have seen knives made like this from steel cable.
>
> Everette wrote:
>
> > Esteemed listers::
> >
> > I have question regarding welding discussion -- I do not remember what
the
> > process is called but I do recall that if you place two or more pieces
of
> > steel together and repeatedly hammer them they will weld themselves
> > together.
> >
> > Something about realigning the molecules of the steel. Seems like some
> > older shotgun barrels were made by this process if memory serves me.
They
> > would withstand black powder, but not smokeless.
> >
> > Sort of like how today's coins are made?? And does our military use
this
> > process in any way?
> >
> > Everette
> >
> > Still around the corner there may wait, a new road or a secret gate.
Though
> > I have often passed them by, a day will come, when I shall take, the
hidden
> > paths that run west of the moon and east of the sun.
> >
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