From: Ted Hils - Ted's Trucks (tedhils@cyber-south.com)
Date: Sat Jun 01 2002 - 19:05:21 PDT
Janet-
I think "Thankless" is in the job description of a show judge. I can
think of many terms to describe the guys that have gripes against judges,
and non of them are suitable to use in mixed company.
MANY people I know that used to show several types of vehicles in
different shows no longer do it because of the fussiness and prima donna
attitudes of many of the entrants.
Perfection was not a quality of new vehicles. It should not be deemed a
necessity of restored vehicles.
Ted Hils
Ted's Trucks 'N Stuff
RR 2 Box 66H
Midland City, Al 36350
334-983-1092
Mon.- Fri., 8-5 CST
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet A. Mele" <jamele@erols.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2002 7:47 PM
Subject: [MV] Judging at Churchville--Response to Amrhein
> From George Mele, Crownsville, MD MVPA 10010
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> Would like to respond to Mr Amrheins 31 May complaints about judging at
the
> Churchville/Aberdeen show. Bill Wilson and I are guilty of being the
judges
> mentioned in this email. We took a severe trashing in this posting that
> comes almost a month after the event. The judging booth was less than 50
> feet from Mr Amrheins display and we were there for several hours after
the
> judging, as was Phil Ulzheimer who was in charge of judging .There was
ample
> opportunity to air his complaints then instead of throwing it on the
> internet.
>
> A good deal of what Mr Amrhein says is true. I did rest a vinyl clipboard
> folder --with no protruding rivets on his bumper to score his vehicle.
Would
> have moved it in a New York microsecond if he complained. Bill Wilson did
> "lay hands " on his vehicle during his inspection--as is his normal
judging
> procedure based on eight years of judging experience. For information,
Bill
> Wilson has over 47 years experience in vehicle body repair and restoration
> and is considered a master craftsman. His restored armored vehicles have
> earned three national level best-in-class awards at MVPA Nationals. We
both
> spent two full days at the Ft. Lee MVPA National Convention watching the
> best of
> the MVPA judges dealing with restored class vehicles and have tried our
best
> to adhere to the national standard. A lot of touching goes on in
> judging--checking paint, welds, alignment,secure attachment, etc
> and I don't believe Bill took this to any extreme. He is invariably very
> fussy about NOT leaving any finger prints on a judged vehicle. He
habitually
> wipes his hand before touching paint and uses the heel and back of the
hand
> to determine the presence of careless welds, painted over rust, bad
repairs
> and bondo filler. On a restored vehicle points are lost for poor
restoration
> craftsmanship but not for a condition that might be an original
> manufacturing defect or shortcut. Bill was guilty of touching his vehicle
> again when he got down on the damp ground and dragged his 67-year old body
> under the truck to check for leaking seals and hydraulics and to check the
> condition of the drivetrain. I'm sure he put a big handprint on the bottom
> of the running board while trying to exit.
>
> I, too, had a restored class vehicle on display for three days and can
tell
> you that it was "touched" and climbed upon by many people. I used almost a
> full bottle of Windex to clean it up after greasy hands touched the paint.
> An event such as Churchville is an informal event where we show our
vehicles
> to the public and try to give them an education and feel for the hobby.
> Touching is a normal part of this sort of show.
>
>
> Now let me answer Amrhein's question about who won in the Post war 2 1/2
ton
> categories. Randy Emr won best restored with his 67 Kaiser M35. Second
> place went to Tom Bauer for a 69 Ford M656. Motor Pool first class went
to
> Lamar Rowland for his 83 AM General and second to Rick sacks for a 70
> Kaiser. Emr's vehicle also won best in show based on the votes of all of
> the judges and judging officials. This was a magnificent truck in all
> respects and set a very high standard for others to reach.
>
> One final thought---At last year's MVPA convention there was a real
problem
> in finding qualified people willing to be judges--more than a few stated
> they didnt want to put up with the flack any longer. Wonder why!!!!!
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