From: Dave Ball (vought@msn.com)
Date: Thu Dec 26 2002 - 15:46:02 PST
For those new collectors out there please do not allow this previous email
to stop you in your search some of what is in it is true however it is not
as bad as would be said by many. Collecting military vehicles is a great
hobby and if you get involved and learn the in and outs of what is where and
who is who you will soon see there are many untapped resources that may take
a little work to find and then get the wheels moving but none the less they
are there.
I happen to know for a fact that a person with the ability to see a project
thru and that has the resources to find and afford the parts can find and
return a M998 to operational conditional for less than 20K now keep in mind
I did not use the word restored. For those that are looking for vehicles do
not forget to look behind rural fire stations near mountains and anywhere
else that Humvees may have been used and discarded as a parts vehicle I know
for a fact they are out there.
There are many collectors who have found the impossible by not giving up and
by ignoring those with bad attitudes who would say give up it does not
exist.
And I am a true believer and witness to reasonable deals happening all the
time between reasonable people.
There have been two HMMWV auctions one west and one east and I am sure there
will be others some day but probably not thru Government liquidators.
I would like to welcome all new comers to this hobby of collecting military
vehicles and hope that you continue to hunt for your green treasures. And do
please join the MVPA it is an excellent way to learn more about the hobby
and make friends with same interests who will eagerly support you in your
quests .
A couple of months ago I got a Humvee motor and transmission for $500.00
dollars from a gentlemen on a horsepower hunt with a Cummins.
And I know of a friend you got one the same way for free.
And I happen to know of a wrecking yard with CUCVees being smashed flat in
Southern California the engines and drive trains are pulled and go for $900
no warranty I bought a front differential for $300 hub to hub so keep
looking.
Not all Military vehicles are in use by the military there are large numbers
in other market segments that dispose of them thru civilian channels.
They are out there even some of the military vehicle / parts dealers have
parts trucks for sale resononably priced 13K or less so keep looking and
keep the faith.
Dave Ball
MVPA 9377
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Burke" <julian@knology.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 1:39 PM
Subject: [MV] Military Hummers "not for sale"
>
> > Does the Gov. sell military hummers? And if it does who sells them?
The
> > only Hummers I have seen on Gov Liq. are bodies and parts.
> > Also if they are sold where are they sold and for how much?
> >
> Well, I see that it's obvious that WGB isn't a member of MVPA and it is
> time for my "wash and wear" answer forum again for same questions asked
> about every six weeks!!
>
> WGB, Just look on Ebay! And while you're at it, join the MVPA.
>
> Humvee's are NOT sold complete to anyone from the Gov't. except to
> another government entity who would have reason to have one. Don't let
> anyone fool you here. However this is not to say it hasn't happened as a
> few have gotten out most likely through Forestry departments who don't
know
> the procedures in place for this topic. At one time the local guard had
to
> lock the gates because civilians were walking in thinking the vehicles
were
> for sale!! (I wish!) This is a two edged answer though as something
> happened three years ago that hasn't happened before which did set a new
> precedence. United Defense Corp traded/bartered some electronic warfare
> equipment for approx 900 ea of M998 Humvees, mostly stripped early units.
> They were auctioned off in Atlanta and Riverside, Ca. No more are
available
> from these sources. I know for a fact that AM General had a lot of
> heartburn over this and quite possibly this may never happen again and
9/11
> hasn't helped either. If WGB is a member of the MVPA, he would know how
to
> obtain a Humvee through dealers or individuals. Ebay is also a good place
> to find one. However there are enough of them out there that they are
> rather easily found, but not under $20K.
>
> Now to get on my soapbox for this subject: If you think you're going
> to get one for nothing or for a few thousand-FORGET IT or stand in a very
> long line!!!!! A rather complete Humvee that won't even run has an
> intrinsic value. How about the guy who was wanting a NOS engine and a
> transmission for a CUCV?? He said "I want one surplus". TRANSLATION:
"I
> want one for around $300 or less" (even though no one can get one for
$2500)
>
> I picked up my son from a school function and drove my Humvee to pick
> him up. One other father came over admiring mine and really wanted one
> because he had been told "that you could buy them for $500 if you bought
> them in lots of six." Just where do these ideas come from?? Are $50
jeeps
> still being sold in the back of magazines?? Also when answering a wanted
ad
> that finishes with "Must be reasonable", watch out! It's another
> translation of "I don't want to pay much for a valuable item". I have
> never-ever sold anything to anyone who finished with that clause! They
also
> usually turn out to be a pain in the butt because they want you to pay
> shipping, as well as throw in something else! Ignore those types of ads.
> I answered one for a CUCV wanted and as it turned out, someone gave him
one
> with air conditioning installed and he thought that it set the value of
all
> CUCV's. When you are looking for something for nothing-NOTHING is what
you
> usually find! Julian Burke
>
>
>
>
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