From: Fred Martin (mung@in-touch.net)
Date: Mon Dec 30 2002 - 09:24:22 PST
Henry, just sent Bob an email asking about info on bombsights....will post any
comments from him to the board. Thanks for his address. We'll see if we can't
un-lonely him for a bit. Fred
ygmir wrote:
> Hi Fred,
> Here's his email:
> bmurdock@jps.net
> His name is Bob.
> I'm sure he'd love to have someone ask him almost any thing, I think he gets
> lonely at times.......
> He's 82, and doesn't get around much, but, jog his memory and he's a wealth
> of info.
> Henry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Fred Martin" <mung@in-touch.net>
> To: "ygmir" <ygmir@onemain.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 1:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] B-17 History ? and something a little off MVtopic.......
>
> > Ygmir....being that you have a real good source for information about
> > bombsights....the friend that taught and worked on them....would it be too
> much
> > to ask him what an actual bombsight was made from? I have heard from
> scuttlebutt
> > that they were made from a spider web. As ornery as those things are when
> you
> > get attached to one....looks like it is tough enough to take a pretty good
> plane
> > ride.
> > Glad you liked the Zebco story....bet we got all the guys looking under
> the
> > foot on their old Zebco reels. Who knows....maybe some of them found one
> and
> > saved it from oblivion. Don't know how many of them the company
> made....can't
> > find that paper from them either...thats been twenty or thirty years ago.
> Fred
> >
> > ygmir wrote:
> >
> > > That's a great story, thanks.
> > > I love those......
> > > Ygmir (Henry)
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Fred Martin" <mung@in-touch.net>
> > > To: "ygmir" <ygmir@onemain.com>
> > > Cc: " (Military Vehicles Mailing List)" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:44 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [MV] B-17 History ? and something a little off
> MVtopic.......
> > >
> > > > Ygmir, just a little more on the bombsight thing. I have a collection
> of
> > > > fishing reels and one time in a correspondence with a company in
> Oklahoma
> > > that
> > > > made fishing equipment....they sent me a page or two on their history
> in
> > > the
> > > > manufacturing business. During WW2 they made bombsights....and after
> the
> > > war
> > > > was over they needed a new product. I guess that one of the tool and
> die
> > > makers
> > > > made himself a fishing reel in the machine shop. The management saw
> it,
> > > liked
> > > > it, as it was something new as far as fishing reels was concerned and
> got
> > > his
> > > > approval to manufacture them. ( Are you getting warm on who this was?)
> The
> > > > company was Zebco....which originally stood for Zero Hour Bombsight
> Co.
> > > The
> > > > spincast reel had been born, I have two of the old Zebcos that have
> this
> > > logo
> > > > stamped on the bottom of the foot. Sorry....not MV topic....but
> everyone
> > > should
> > > > have a fishing rig behind the seat in their mil-veh. Fred
> > > >
> > > > ygmir wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > HI all,
> > > > > Well, it seems this might be a good place to say this to others.
> > > > > I have a friend, he is a WWII vet, and served as an instructor for
> bomb
> > > > > sights. He could work on them and teach their use.
> > > > > I wouldn't have a clue what to ask him, but, he's getting pretty
> well up
> > > > > there, and his health is deteriorating. I'm thinking someone might
> want
> > > to
> > > > > pick his brain for good info. I know no one uses them here, but
> might
> > > know
> > > > > of someone looking to talk to him.
> > > > > I haven't approached the subject with him, but I know he is kind of
> > > lonely,
> > > > > and might like to share his knowledge with others.
> > > > > If any one wants, I can ask him if he'd like to email/talk with
> others.
> > > > > Sorry for the off MV topic, but I'd hate for someone to say "gee, I
> wish
> > > I
> > > > > could have asked him......."
> > > > > Happy Holidays,
> > > > > Henry
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Steve & Jeanne Keith" <cckw@attbi.com>
> > > > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 3:24 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [MV] B-17 History ?
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yea, the Caribou almost crashed carrying in the dozer as it was
> too
> > > heavy
> > > > > > for the plane...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Joe Foley" <redmenaced@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2002 5:45 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [MV] B-17 History ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > They blew the tire out on the Caribou, then filled it
> > > > > > > with propane!! Evidently they didn't think to bring a
> > > > > > > compressor? Can't believe that. The guy dumping fuel
> > > > > > > on the "signal" fire from the can,....... not a good
> > > > > > > idea in a remote place,........ or any other for that
> > > > > > > matter.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The showed them dropping a bearing in the dirt while
> > > > > > > putting one of the props together, not sure why they
> > > > > > > showed that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I still think it was just a reason to make a
> > > > > > > "documentary",......... Spielberg wannabe.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The mechanic died from internal bleeding from a
> > > > > > > previous injury,....... from what I remember.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joe
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Walter Houghton <FlyN3Nvt@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On the video that was sent, it started out with the
> > > > > > > > trip to survey the A/C.
> > > > > > > > To get there, they had a UH-1C. The flew the huey
> > > > > > > > fully loaded, the 3rd
> > > > > > > > pasenger laying on the gear and he was at the
> > > > > > > > ceiling. The video showed the
> > > > > > > > huey straining to get in the air with the load. The
> > > > > > > > 3rd memeber had to stay
> > > > > > > > behind so the huey could fly. It then show them
> > > > > > > > making a makeshift runway
> > > > > > > > for a Dehaviland Carabou........Which blows a
> > > > > > > > cylinder at the B-29
> > > > > > > > site..........this is when that mech gets sick.
> > > > > > > > Anyway at one part they show the airplane
> > > > > > > > partially in the water. With the
> > > > > > > > shore line infront of them. They used the huey to
> > > > > > > > put weight on the
> > > > > > > > horizontal and weight the tail down to lift the nose
> > > > > > > > to get it out of the
> > > > > > > > water. SAD. Once on land they took a barrel of
> > > > > > > > fuel and a hose and
> > > > > > > > hooked it to the carb of the #4 Engine. They
> > > > > > > > proceded to start it. With
> > > > > > > > all 4 blades being bent and in a out of balance
> > > > > > > > conditon, what were they
> > > > > > > > trying to prove????? They eventually got a few
> > > > > > > > cylinders firing and it
> > > > > > > > idle'd rather crudly..........................It
> > > > > > > > just left me with a knot in
> > > > > > > > my stomach.
> > > > > > > > Jeff.............................
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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