From: Dave Ball (vought@msn.com)
Date: Fri Jan 17 2003 - 10:24:50 PST
There are two type 95 tanks sitting in Sherwood forest at Camp Roberts Ca.
right next too the bleacher area before you go on the range they are a
little worse for wear but still could be made to look right looks like they
are full of 37mm holes and splatters.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan M Gill" <rmgill@mindspring.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Ebay Items disappear
> At 11:43 AM -0500 1/17/03, Paul H. Anderson wrote:
> >As far as I know, other nations (not the United States) have extreme
> >penalties against buying or selling Nazi memorabilia (or I suppose being
a
> >party to such a sale). eBay can't fight the laws there, nor can they
> >readily keep people from specific nations from accessing eBay. So, they
> >cave in by prohibiting them.
>
> Germany also ban's speech relating to Nazi Party activities and
> gatherings. Lots of things are Verboten in Germany. That concept
> isn't supposed to fly here. I have 2 direct relatives that risked
> death during WWII as I'm sure many of you do here as well. However,
> the basic tenant of this nation's believes are that no matter how
> distasteful the beliefs are, they are generally protected under
> constitutional provisions.
>
> >Guns, unfortunately, probably fall victim to the same basic problem.
> >
> >I don't mean to defend eBay, but in this case, from a legal and technical
> >perspective, allowing trading of guns or nazi stuff would put their
> >business at great peril. I'm sure politics plays into it, as well.
>
> Yep, the internet spans all borders, so you need to work according to
> the least common denominator right? Well, where do you stop? France
> requires all web sites hosted there to be in French. Does that me
> that in order to even tangentially cater to a french person looking
> at my MV site, I have to put it in French...I've got a better chance
> of eating frogs...
>
> >I think of it as a "dumbing down" effect - meet the lowest common
> >denominator of the common nations that scare eBay lawyers the most.
>
> Dumbing down is always a bad idea. Especially when it threatens the
> hobby. "Sorry, that vehicle was used for war, you don't need that."
>
>
> >I wonder, though, how much water this line of reasoning holds, as someone
> >just noted about the Japanese items being sold (dunno if Japan restricts
> >sale/buying of Japanese war memorabilia).
>
> I don't know. The swords are controlled items iirc. The firearms
> surely are. That leaves personal gear/uniforms and vehicles. I don't
> know how much Japan had left after WWII, but I suspect is wasn't
> much. Also, given how they recycle anything not useful or nailed
> down, there probably isn't a single Type95 tank rusting in a field on
> any of the Home islands.
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