From: Dave Brubaker (b52d@piace.com)
Date: Wed Jan 22 2003 - 15:31:51 PST
There was a very recent article in an aviation magazine that discussed the
262 project. One of the big things mentioned was how the landing gear was
greatly improved over the original model. From the original post on this to
the group it sounds like the landing did not break on the ground or collapse
on the ground while on roll out. But rather they had a retract problem in
the air and apparently a lock failure once extended.
I doubt that the company would recreate, in this age of litigation, a known
flawed landing gear.
David & Donna Brubaker
Member MVPA #18115
M-151A2
http://www.piace.com/~b52d/
President: Mid-Kansas MVPA
http://www.mkmvpa.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Horrocks, Aaron" <ACHb@pge.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Me 262 replica badly damaged in crash landing
It's rather interesting that the reproduction Me262 had a landing gear
mishap since the original Me262s also had significant landing gear problems.
I hope that they can learn from the design mistakes before any more loss of
machine (or man) happens...
Question about ma jeep: The rear axel is leaking. It's the pinion seal
again! what's the best way to remove it for replacement? Do I have to take
all those gears out again?
Aaron Horrocks
1952 M38A1
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Malikoff (MIL-VEH account)
[mailto:44gpw@phaedra.apana.org.au]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:22 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: [MV] Me 262 replica badly damaged in crash landing
G'day all,
I just read this on another list, and I hope it's on-topic.
It's a flying HMV, and I know that a number of listmembers are warbird
enthusiasts (actually, I don't know _anyone_ who is interested in HMV's
who _doesn't_ appreciate warbirds).
Steve.
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Subject: Me262 Update
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:01:41 -0800
To One and All:
Today was not a good day for the Me262 Project. I was in the chase plane
with Katsu Tokunaga, Jim Larsen and Art Fraser. This was the bird's second
time up, and it's first flight with the gear up.
The take-off was uneventful, and the Citation chase was right behind the
Me262. We headed over Saratoga Passage (north end of Puget Sound), Wolf
cycled the landing gear up, and everything looked fine.
We then repositioned the chase to the right side of the Me262, Wolf cycled
the gear again, and we all saw that the nose gear did not retract
completely. The pilots maneuvered the Citation, allowing us to view the
Me262 from various angles. None of us saw anything unusual or anything that
would appear to be causing a nose gear malfunction.
Wolf executed an emergency gear extension and we headed back to Paine Field.
Our plane flew right alongside Wolf's as he touched down, landing from the
south. The touch down seemed normal and the Citation flew right on past.
After we landed and exited the aircraft, Jeff (the Citation's owner) said:
"I hope your friend Wolf is okay." That struck me as rather odd, and he
continued: "It went nose down into something that looked like a drainage
ditch." My initial response was that he must be feeding us a line of bull.
During the formation flying Bud G. was also at the controls. Suddenly it hit
me that Bud's face was beet red. Bud confirmed that the Me262 had run off
the west side of the runway. My immediate thoughts were for Wolf's well
being. I headed right over the Me262 project hangar and was vastly relieved
to learn that Wolf was okay. It appeared that the Me262 was severely
damaged, however.
According to Wolf, the landing appeared to be normal. He said he thought the
first 50-80 yards of the touch-down roll had been fine, but then the Me262
started to drop to the left. He could not could not keep the aircraft on the
runway. The aircraft crossed over the runway apron and an access road, and
then hit a very large concrete block. (The block's dimensions are
approximately three feet wide, three and one-half feet tall, and six to
seven feet long.)
The Me262 came to rest stuck nose-down in a drainage ditch, at a 50-60
degree nose-down attitude. I saw that the left main had punched through the
top of the wing. It looked to me like the left engine nacelle had been
ripped off the wing. Most everything forward of the wing leading edge seemed
either bent or broken.
Wolf said that if he had landed to the south, the collapsed gear could have
caused the plane to go veer into an entire row of hangars. Not a good day
for the Me262 project.
Tomorrow Bob Hammer and his crew will be at the crash site, to begin
recovery. Boeing is bringing a crane over on Monday to lift the Me262 onto a
flat bed, to be transported back to the hangar.
As I learn more, I will keep you up to date.
FYI ... it's a full moon to boot!
Cheers...Jim Goodall
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