From: Dave Ball (vought@msn.com)
Date: Sun Feb 02 2003 - 01:43:20 PST
This link will take you to site and talks about a military vehicle and the
hero who rode it so that others might survive a high G bailout.
http://www.edwards.af.mil/history/docs_html/tidbits/survival_track.html
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Jankowiak" <eccm@swbell.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Columbia and escape modules...
> Nonetheless, a large spherical fuel tank survived intact today.
> whether anyone riding in a similarly made but larger escape device
> would not have been roasted or smashed to pieces inside it is another
> story.
>
> Chris Davis wrote:
> >
> > Now that you mention it, I remember that "entire cockpit" option too...
but
> > I also remember a bit from the movie "Apollo 13" (I was alive for the
> > actual event, but too young to pay much attention) anyway in the movie
they
> > talk about the re-entry of the capsule having to occur at very precise
> > angles and speeds or the thing would burn up (despite its shielding) or
> > skip off the atmosphere like a stone skipping on a lake....
> >
> > Even with todays computer controls, I bet it would be difficult to
"eject"
> > a cockpit pod and get the attitude and direction right after the
> > separation. Things have to be happening awfully fast at that speed.
> >
> > As for the funding cuts of past administrations... I agree with you.
NASA
> > should have had more, not less funding. (And should today.)
> >
> > Chris Davis
> >
> > Chris DavisAt 04:04 PM 2/1/03 -0600, J Travis wrote:
> > >As I recall, one of the proposals put forward after Challenger was
> > >analyzed was for a cockpit "module" that could be seperated and would
> > >contain the entire crew, similar in function to the F-111 and the B1-B
> > >bombers (although engineered to meet the greater loads). It was later
> > >decided that it would be too expensive to retrofit the shuttles for
NASA's
> > >budget during the Clinton administration.
> > >
> > >Jay Travis
> > >
> > >Chris Davis wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi Jay, and list...
> > >>
> > >>Sad day for all of us, but I don't think the escape module would have
> > >>helped in this instance. If I remember right, the design was based on
a
> > >>launch failure like Challenger's... not a "pod" that would withstand
> > >>re-entry speeds and heat.
> > >>
> > >>Chris Davis
> > >>MVPA#20000
> > >>Lake Elsinore, CA
> > >>
> > >>At 12:23 PM 2/1/03 -0600, J Travis wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>> Looks like that decision to cut costs by eliminating the crew
escape
> > >>>>module to save on the budget might not have been such a great idea
after
> > >>>>all, huh? Thanks, Mr. Clinton. I'm sure all those public school
library
> > >>>>copies of "Billy has Two Daddies" bought with the "savings" on the
NASA
> > >>>>budget are a real comfort to the families of the astronauts...
> > >>>>
> > >>>>What we REALLY need is to go ahead and fund the development of the
space
> > >>>>plane, to replace the Orbiter (space shuttle) system that SHOULD
have
> > >>>>been done in the late eighties. But between cutting the NASA budget
to
> > >>>>fund politically motivated social agendas and not being willing to
> > >>>>overhaul the industry built around continuing the support of this
> > >>>>obsolete technology, we now find ourselves right back where we were
in
> > >>>>1986 with Challenger. My sympathies to the families of those lost
today.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Jay Travis
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Ryan Gill wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>At 9:48 AM -0500 2/1/03, Alan R Wise wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>Terrible day, February 1, 2003.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Damn it.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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