From: Dave Ball (vought@msn.com)
Date: Mon Feb 03 2003 - 16:13:25 PST
Are you suggesting someone at NASA should be swinging from a rope for saying
"Its not a problem come on down will see you on the ground"
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Glen Bedel" <GBedel@designforum.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Columbia. No negligence there.
> ...back in the old days, we had a thing called "Rope".
> It was an interesting invention. You could tie it to something and
rappel,
> hang, swing, etc... from it
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan M Gill [mailto:rmgill@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:27 PM
> To: mil-veh@mil-veh.org
> Subject: Re: [MV] Columbia. No negligence there.
>
>
> At 1:50 PM -0500 2/3/03, Dave Cole wrote:
> >I remember that also about the custom fit tile, etc. But that was
> >20+ years ago. I would have thought that by now they would have
> >figured out a way to
> >patch a tile or two in space. IE, Acme space tile replacement kits, etc.
>
> I don't think they carry bits to repair tiles. Its just not something
> you can do easily in space. How would you press on the tile to remove
> it? There aren't work fixtures under the shuttle to attach yourself
> to. Even if you could remove the other tile's fragments correctly,
> you'd have a hard time placing the new one. When they work in the
> shuttle payload bay, they have hand holds, foot brackets and other
> fixtures that the guys doing the EVA's hold onto/attach themselves
> too and work around to keep themselves in one place. Look at pictures
> of the ISS.
>
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0204/isstruss_nasa_big.jpg
>
> The gold bars are handholds. If you look at some of the handholds,
> you'll see a socket for a foot bracket that the astronauts will
> install for his feet to fit into. It provides a solid mounting for
> him/her when doing shifting moving work.
>
> Remember, this is space, a simple task like removing a bolt is
> confounded by thick gloves, a stiff suit, limited mobility and no
> gravity to keep you in place when you attach something. Imagine
> working underwater, deep underwater. That's only half of it.
>
>
> >And the fact that they can't do an EVA on the underside of the
> >shuttle? What about a rope? Maybe they just needed a longer one?
>
> NASA is really careful about EVA's. They like to have some kind of
> mechanism for getting someone back and rescuing them if something in
> the EVA goes wrong.
>
> They've got the MMU on some flights. I don't know if this flight even
> had a configuration that involved an airlock or an MMU since they
> don't carry that gear unless it's planned on being used. Looking at
> some press pages for the STS 107 configuration, I don't see where the
> airlock would be. Its not in the tunnel and I know the space hab
> doesn't have it.
>
> http://spaceresearch.nasa.gov/sts-107/overview.html
>
> The airlock in the midbody is mated with the tunnel to the space hab
> module. The airlock needs to be bigger than that mating port on that
> tunnel from my understanding.
>
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