From: Henry J. Fackovec (hfackovec@easternems.com)
Date: Tue Feb 04 2003 - 07:26:52 PST
>>>I sure hope the children and families of those lost astronauts are
shielded from all the speculation and news hounds.<<<
What exactly is a "News Hound" ?? If you are talking about a member of
the American media, it is our right and responsibility to keep the
public (Like you) informed about public events. The horrible effects on
an astronauts family is a very legitimate news story. By entering into
the program they and their families forfeit all rights to privacy.
Respectfully,
Hankie (The guy The Post used to send out to ask the family of murder
victims it we could have the victims high school pix to run front page)
-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf Of Dave Ball
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 3:02 AM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Columbia. Negligence there?
The tragedy in this is the astronauts up on this trip were there for
reasons other than EVA activities so were not trained for that mission.
In my mind I thought maybe the robotic arm could be used with its
Cameras but this is also a mission trained specialist task. Hindsight in
it self is worse than Murphy's law we all at one time or another have
been out in the MV going long distance and had something go south and
thought... What if I had only done this or brought that but that
thinking only serves to remind us how important it is to be prepared for
anything and everything and do our Preventative Maintenance and shake
down cruises. The one thing I have not heard as a contingency is docking
with the space station and sending up rescue missions to retrieve the
astronauts if they had discovered there was a problem with the tiles on
the left wing and needed to send the shuttle spacemail to the sun. If
they had found a problem they could not repair it is the reason NASA is
saying they did not take more steps in checking out possible damage. I
sure hope the children and families of those lost astronauts are
shielded from all the speculation and news hounds. One piece of the
shuttle was on ebay and got to $21,000,000 before ebay pulled it today I
do not know what the seller was thinking and the buyer...... The FBI was
on the news warning against taking government property it is ill gotten
booty and they will take you away in bracelets.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy Smith" <timothy.smith1@worldnet.att.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 11:12 PM
Subject: [MV] Columbia. Negligence there?
> Appears several list members are knowledgable in the field of
> aerospace,
so
> I have a question or at least an observation.
>
> Everyone was well aware that something had hit the left wing of
> Columbia
and
> the fellas on the ground with the slide rules and thick glasses had a
> pow-wow and came to the conclusion that all was well with Columbia
> after that mishap.
>
> HUH?! (having heard that, my antenna began to quiver)
>
> I heard an astronaut (who was a qualified and experienced shuttle
> crewmember) state in an interview that (at least in the case of
> Columbia) there was no way for the crew to make a visual examination
> of the exterior surfaces of the craft.
>
> EXCUSE ME!? YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME!
>
> Having heard all the commentary about the delicacies of reentry in a
> shuttle, it seems to me that under circumstances such as these, a
> visual examination of the exterior of Columbia would have been
> mandatory and failure to do so (assuming there was actually something
> to see that would indicate a problem) and failure to consider that
> such a need would arise
at
> some time and failing to plan for it would constitute negligence.
>
> I am not suggesting that they would have necessarily been able to fix
> the damage, but they sure as hell would be able to make an informed
> decision
as
> to what they felt they could and could not do with the shuttle
> afterwards.
>
> Personally, I wouldn't send another shuttle up without some type of
> EVA equipment or perhaps some remotely operated vehicle with cameras
> and a tether so that next time (and God forbid there WILL be a next
> time) they
can
> at least have a look.
>
> I liken this to one of us taking our HMV's across the desert without a
spare
> parts and a cel phone.....nuts, huh?
>
> Comments, anyone?
>
> Regards,
> TJ Smith
>
>
>
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