From: Edward Morgan (morgan54801@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Feb 06 2003 - 12:46:54 PST
OK, I've had enough, my delete button is getting worn
out.
Ed Morgan
--- Fred Martin <mung@in-touch.net> wrote:
> Most all of us get our news on the Iraq thing on the
> nightly news and
> form our opinions of whether or not we should go to
> war from there. I
> must admit....if you listen to the news from another
> country....(as with
> your shortwave receiver or modern ham rigs)....it
> appears that our news
> is somewhat biased....it's as if we are being
> conditioned....to get us
> in the mood for war....that it is the right thing to
> do. Well, I guess
> that they (the politicians who create wars) have to
> do this and keep
> shoving this stuff at us or the anti war clan will
> get ahead of them and
> the crowd will turn in their favor. So....if you are
> going to form an
> opinion about it....be well informed. Don't just
> side in with a friend
> or neighbor who says "Hell no....we won't go!" Look
> it over carefully
> and don't just take Dan Rather or Peter Jennings
> words for your final
> decision. Now I may be getting my butt in a sling
> here as I have never
> rode a political horse, light or dark....but it is
> obvious what is going
> on. My appologies for the lack of mil-veh content
> here and I don't think
> that my saying about tha mule goin blind is
> appropriate in this
> case....I think that's what the politicians want us
> to do though. Your
> comments please.
> Fred Martin
>
> Steve Grammont wrote:
> > David,
> >
> >
> >>We see every day on the evening news
> >>that the group of anti-war protesters are growing.
> It does dishearten us.
> >
> >
> > One should never confuse a lack of support for
> military action with a
> > lack of support for the military men and women who
> will be tasked with
> > that action. In fact, most domestic anti-war
> protesters state very
> > strongly that they value the lives of their
> military men and women so
> > much that they do not want to see their lives
> thrown away in pursuit of
> > goals they feel are inconsistent with the spirit
> of their nation.
> > Unfortunately, there is legitimate reason to not
> fully trust political
> > leadership. They have shown themselves fully
> capable of allowing its
> > military personnel and/or civilians to be
> sacrificed for futile and/or
> > poorly conceived and/or immoral actions in pursuit
> of corrupt and/or
> > flawed policies. There is no nation on Earth that
> has a clean record in
> > this regard, so I am not singling out any one
> government.
> >
> > Here in the US we live in a Democracy. No one
> side should be able to
> > shout down another, especially when it is
> sizeable, simply because they
> > "don't want to hear it". Dialog over
> disagreements are what makes a
> > nation strong, not weak. Beacuse the US' military
> power is so vast and
> > intergal to world stability, it finds itself in
> the akward position of
> > needing to hear the voices of citizens from other
> countries on how the US
> > conducts itself since its actions rarely just
> affect US interests. Of
> > course, the US has the inailiable right to
> disregard such voices if it so
> > chooses, but it should never shut out feedback
> from both friends and foes
> > when setting orth policies. To do so would be
> pure folly and play right
> > into the hands of terrorists all over the world.
> >
> > In short, do not be disheartened by those who take
> issue with the
> > political leadership and decisions you are being
> asked to carry out.
> > Especially those protestors here in the US.
> Instead, thank US
> > protestors for being a part of the Democratic
> system and, by and large,
> > having your safety and the safety of the civilians
> you protect at the
> > forefront of their concerns. Also thank others
> for voicing their
> > opinions because this is one world we live in and
> we must respect the
> > fact that what we do potentially affects more than
> our own interests. On
> > the other hand, condem and alienate any protestor
> which can not seperate
> > the individuals tasked with following lawful
> orders from those who issue
> > them (i.e. politicians). Such people have nothing
> positive to contribute.
> >
> > I have many friends in the military. In fact, one
> of my best friends was
> > mobilized yesterday (Naval Reserves) and ships out
> next week to a hot
> > spot. If we are to go to war against Iraq I feel
> it is my obligation as
> > their friend and a citizen of this fine country to
> be sure war is the
> > best option. I've been listening to the UN
> meetings all day today in
> > order to help determine this in my own mind.
> >
> >
> >>... it is all of you most of all I hope we make
> proud.
> >
> >
> > Whatever happens, I have no doubts that you will.
> I wish you and your
> > shipmates a safe and speedy return from your
> mission, whether it involves
> > combat or simply being positioned to keep the
> peace. One can not have a
> > strong Democracy without a strong military, which
> is something nobody
> > should forget.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > P.S. One of my good friends worked various
> positions on the deck of your
> > ship in the early 1990s.
> >
> >
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