From: Jeffrey Smith MVP (mvpco@yahoo.com)
Date: Tue Mar 04 2003 - 11:37:29 PST
sweeeeeeeeet!!!!!
Jeff Smith M*V*P
--- David Ball <vought@msn.com> wrote:
> I have been to hundreds of swap meets and lots of
> MVPA Conventions and you
> can't please all the people at any time.....
> It is true the ball rolls on and if this is the
> first time you have been put
> out consider yourself lucky.
> I asked the MVPA President years ago about a very
> important issue that had
> happened to me and what I got was a pass the buck
> answer "its is up to the
> locals putting on the show" and some cover a** stuff
> you do not want to
> hear.
> This kind of stuff has happened to me and friends
> many times. Ever show up
> to a camp out and swap meet and someone else was
> given your spot even though
> you had prepaid a rollover the year before and there
> was none left it
> happens all the time in California.
> Who gets hurt more me our the poor sucker I made
> tear his tent down and pack
> up his parts and get out.....
> The issue I refer to was at an MVPA convention in
> Oregon years ago I had
> brought my newly restored prototype 1940 Bantam
> Trailer to show, it was pre
> registered and put inside with the prototype Jeeps
> on Friday night and
> locked up in the building. Well the next Morning I
> get to the building to
> open up my vendor table and I walk to get a cup of
> coffee and guess what my
> trailer is missing... well this really pissed me
> off. I went to find the
> gentlemen running the show will call him Mr. X to
> protect the dumb and
> dumber this person tells me they moved it outside so
> they could move some
> stuff around that morning. So me and my brother
> in-law Kim run outside just
> in time to see it leaving hitched to the back of a
> Ford pickup... Well after
> some heated word a couple wrinkled shirt lapels on
> the driver who by the way
> said he "mistook it for his that he left here
> yesterday" and he said was
> sorry to the security guard and the local Barney
> Fife who let him go on his
> way as long as he promised to never do it again.
> My point if you are complacent enough to think the
> persons running these
> shows and swap meets give a sh** about you and your
> issues forget about it
> you need to call the day after last years show is
> over to pay in advance and
> get receipts. Then get really mean when they scr**
> you. By not showing up
> they have won. You need to get a large crowd of
> pissed off people and go to
> war on them do not for one minute think by staying
> home you have done a
> thing to hurt them you actually helped them prove
> that it will just go away.
> meaning the problem and you. Go get in there face,
> talk bad about them, make
> there day, every chance you get.... Why make it easy
> for them.
>
> Dave
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronzo" <rojoha@attbi.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 8:02 AM
> Subject: [MV] WARNING!!!! VENDORS !! 30th Annual
> East Coast Rally or The
> road to hell...
>
>
> > Is paved with good intentions, or so the saying
> goes.
> >
> > For those vendors who received the
> "Registration Form For Spaces" from
> > the WAC/B&G MVT in a mailing that occurred on or
> about January 20th, 2003
> or
> > are going by the ads in MV Mag or Supply Line, and
> read the line on the
> form
> > that states "Yes: I want the same spaces from May
> 2002 Rally____ Note;
> only
> > held until 15 March 2003" and think you still have
> time to send in your
> > money. NOT!!!!!
> > Your spaces from last year are GONE!
> >
> > Check out the site:
> http://www.wacbgmvt.org/ecr/index.html
> >
> > I received the mailing on January 23rd, 2003.
> On Feb 3, 2003 a change
> > was posted on the Rally WEB SITE saying,
> Oops...never mind. If you want
> your
> > space, send in your money by 15 February or the
> spaces will go to whoever
> we
> > want to give them too.
> > No postcard notification to the folks who were
> mailed Registration
> Forms
> > just 11 days earlier with the now bogus info.
> Just a note on the rally
> web
> > site. What about vendors who don't have time to
> check the website EVERY 20
> > minutes for changes?
> > The same ad runs in the March 2003 Supply Line
> on pg 21, and on page
> 142
> > of the February issue of MV Magazine.
> >
> > They run a great rally, volunteers or not, but
> you can't, morally,
> > change the rules in the last quarter of the game.
> >
> > When I queried the change yesterday, and I
> must say I didn't use a
> > single four letter word, I received a reply where
> the registrar tried to
> > find us (2 folks involving 5 spaces, but there
> were actually 4 of us
> > involved in a block of 8 spaces{now gone} ) equal
> space, but no longer
> > together.
> > He stated he was doing the best he could.
> >
> > " This is a non-profit event, all proceeds go
> to charitable
> > organizations, e.g. Scouts, Museum, etc.
> >
> > "I do what I can, we are all volunteers in a
> club of about 200 so its
> > death by committee. I am lucky enough to be
> point man handling the
> > registration. Too many competing demands for
> additional display space to
> > accommodate the Convoy coming in on 8 May and the
> re-enactment units. All
> > of those in Row A as well as those nearest the
> display area in first 3
> > aisles had to move. "
> >
> > They didn't know this was happening at the
> time of the mailing?
> >
> > One of my 'neighbors' also weighed in on the
> subject, and while
> > strident, said nothing that could be construed as
> abusive. ( All emails
> > exchanged so far can be forwarded off line if
> anyone is interested.
> Contact
> > me off line)
> >
> > The reply that was then sent out by the rep of
> the "WAC/B&G MVT" at
> > 0602 this AM was :
> >
> > " Hello
> > Choose from what is available to meet your
> (groups needs) needs, pass
> on
> > the Rally...... I am not in a position to debate
> the fairness or
> legality
> > of holding spaces through 15 March.
> > Regards...."
> >
> > Take it or leave it, not my problem.....
> >
> > Any lawyer types on the list willing to
> offer an opinion on this
> > situation?
> > Any other MV Club officials who run
> rallies and flea markets
> agree
> > with this type of attitude?
> > Why is there an attitude that 'Oh well,
> your just a vendor....
> Tango
> > Sierra. Get over it.' ?
> >
> > What is a clubs responsibilities when it runs
> an organized, advertised
> > rally. If it makes statements in national
> publication
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