RE: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?

From: Michael Goodden (mgmv@auroragroup.co.uk)
Date: Tue Mar 11 2003 - 15:09:54 PST


I'd like to give my support to Arthur and his company. He provided me
an excellent service and excellent products. They are great value for
what they are. Not only did he provide me with great products but found
a shipping company that I now use regularly that are a fraction of the
cost of other international shippers.

I'd also like to point out to Mark that the general mark-up in a shop is
230% of the wholesale cost they get it for, so this is an amazing
service that Arthur is providing. And if you do enough miles to justify
the use of these items then you will save more than the cost of them in
fuel economy.... I am driving an M35A2 around the world and these are an
essential part to my trip.

Thanks
Mike
___________________
Michael Goodden
The Global Tipi Adventure
http://TheTipi.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf Of m35products
Sent: 11 March 2003 20:28
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?

Dear Sir:

Im not sure if that was sarcasm or not.

It might surprise you to know that the power steering, after
advertising,
product liability and general insurance, shipping, phone calls in the
middle
of the night for our 24-hour service, etc, nets us about $200 profit
each.
After taxes, (28% bracket)that's about $144. We sell maybe 20 a year.

The hubs, after all of the above, and paying off the initial $5000
tooling
costs from several years ago, nets us about $100 per pair, which after
taxes
is $72. We sell around 50 pairs a year.

Profit from P/S $2880
Profit from hubs $3600
Total profit $6480

If you really want or need a power steering unit, or a pair of hubs,
please
contact me. I will sell them to you at my cost plus shipping. I can do
that
because (A) I own the company, and (B) I try to go out of my way to help
people in need whenever I can.

 Then, all I ask is that you honestly evaluate them, and say something
nice
about them, if that's your conclusion.

As to all the other people who share your opinion of me and my company
and
its products, please have them contact me.

Arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark's hotmail" <markehle@hotmail.com>
To: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:15 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?

> Arthur -
>
> What a wonderful idea. Will it be any cheaper than your front hubs? If
not,
> that will be one more cool thing you folks make that there is no way I
(and,
> I will bet, lots of other folks) will be able to afford
>
> Mark Ehle
> 1970 AMG M35A2
> Dowling, MI.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?
>
>
> > We are working on a design for just such an apparatus. It will
replace
the
> > jack shaft, and have an air-operated disconnect. In the event of an
air
> > problem, it will restore to all-wheel drive. An air switch on the
dash,
> > similar to the air-shift transfer case lever, will disengage the
rear-most
> > axle. Stay tuned for updates, later in the Spring.
> >
> > We are also quite close to being able to offer rear lockout hubs to
be
> > installed on one of the rear axles. Used with the axle disconnect
> mentioned
> > above, they will provide even less drag.
> >
> > Arthur
> >
> > Inter Agency Motor Pool
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick Jankowiak" <eccm@swbell.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 11:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?
> >
> >
> > > That is one of the best ideas I have heard. The issue of balancing
> > > such a carefully made and rugged/heavy assembly would be a
mechanical
> > > design engineer's job all right.
> > >
> > > How about a two piece interaxle shaft which has a central axle
inside
> > > it, fixed into to the front half, and free to spin in the rear
half as
> > > with a pilot bearing, and two halves of a large dog clutch, one
fixed
> > > on the front half and one sliding on external splines on the on
the
> > > back half of this interaxle shaft. Lock by sliding the rear half
of
> > > the dog clutch to the front, unlock by sliding it back? The only
> > > question is how to match up the dogs if they are out of sync when
you
> > > have stopped and are crawling under the truck to do this. Lockout
hubs
> > > seem to have some kind of spring action which helps them work once
you
> > > have set them. i don't know how it would work with a shaft.
> > >
> > > Has anyone ever made such a thing?
> > >
> > > David Cole wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was more worried about traction loss - which is the better
axle to
> > > > disable, the front or the rear of the tandem. Seems at first
glance
> > that
> > > > the front might be better to disable than the rear. I don't
have
> > lockers
> > > > in either of my axles. It sure would be nice to have a lockable
> > coupling
> > > > in the interaxle drive shaft.
> > > >
> > > > Opinions?
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:20:25 -0500, Bjorn Brandstedt
> > > > <super_deuce@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > David,
> > > > > For the purpose of eliminating any drag between the two rear
axles,
> it
> > > > > doesn't matter which axle/flange is replaced with a blank.
> > > > > Bjorn
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> From: David Cole <DavidCole@tk7.net>
> > > > >> To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
> > > > >> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?
> > > > >> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:15:04 -0500
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Which axle would you remove? One from the front rear or one
from
> the
> > > > >> rear-rear?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:29:35 EST, <Recovry4x4@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> You can net the same results here by removing one axle
shaft.
Same
> > > > >>> number of bolts but no nuts and no crawling under the truck.
I
> carry
> > a
> > > > >>> small bowl to catch the little bit of gear oil that drips
out.
> Once
> > > > >>> done removing or installing the shaft I dump the gear oil
(maybe
> an
> > > > >>> ounce) into the fuel tank. Laugh if you will, Ive been doing
it
> for
> > > > >>> decades with big trucks without any problems. I do use a
front
> > drive
> > > > >>> flange as a cover when the shaft is removed.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> In a message dated 3/7/03 1:08:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > > >>> mgmv@auroragroup.co.uk writes:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> If you are looking for major fuel savings for a long
journey on
> > > > >>>> highway
> > > > >>>> roads then you can simply unbolt the rear prop shaft
between
the
> > two
> > > > >>>> rear axels so that it is only driving the middle axel.
This
can
> > make
> > > > >>>> massive fuel savings, but is only worth doing for long
highway
> > > > >>>> journeys.
> > > > >>>
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> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Dave
> > > > >>
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