Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?

From: Fred Martin (mung@in-touch.net)
Date: Tue Mar 11 2003 - 14:15:24 PST


Okay...thanks...but I don't think I can make a sound with a b and j
together...but don't let that stop you. Later. Fred

Bjorn Brandstedt wrote:
> Hello Fred,
> The so called side gears will spin in the differential, with or without
> an axle installed, the loading will not be even, the way I see it, and
> that may not be a good thing for the bearings in the long run. Then it
> would make sense to remove both drive axles to even out the load.
> About my name, the "B" is not silent (perhaps I should be, more often
> then not), it is an old Swedish name. Remember the tennis player, Bjorn
> Borg? Same name.
> Cheers,
> Bjorn
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>> From: Fred Martin <mung@in-touch.net>
>> To: Bjorn Brandstedt <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
>> CC: " (Military Vehicles Mailing List)" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?-Correction-
>> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 09:51:21 +0000
>>
>> Bjorn...you atayed on this subject long enough to get my mind into a
>> differential. As my minds eye tells me that when you pull the axle out
>> to relieve the rear axle...what happens to the inner axle gear...does
>> it have a bearing to keep it centered to the spider assembly (regular
>> differential...no locker type)...and would there be any extra wear to
>> the spider assembly on this axle? And if the front dual were spinning
>> (as in stuck) what would take place in the rear axle assembly? If the
>> rear ring and pinion were turning...it looks like the energy would be
>> transfered to the spiders and make them just spin in place...and I
>> don't think they have bearings...just metal to metal or maybe a thin
>> bronze shim from some I've seen. Is this a good thing? Maybe if not,
>> some precautions should be in place for this new setup. Sorry about
>> unshutting you up now...I guess this question could be answered by the
>> majority of differential heads if anyone else cares to voice their
>> opinion. Also...in pronouncing your name...is the "B" silent? Fred
>> Martin
>>
>> Bjorn Brandstedt wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it does change things, but you know what I mean.
>>> I'm gonna shut up now.
>>> Bjorn
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>>>> From: David Cole <DavidCole@tk7.net>
>>>> Reply-To: DavidCole@tk7.net
>>>> To: Bjorn Brandstedt <super_deuce@hotmail.com>, Military Vehicles
>>>> Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?
>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 21:38:23 -0500
>>>>
>>>> I was more worried about traction loss - which is the better axle to
>>>> disable, the front or the rear of the tandem. Seems at first glance
>>>> that the front might be better to disable than the rear. I don't
>>>> have lockers in either of my axles. It sure would be nice to have a
>>>> lockable coupling in the interaxle drive shaft.
>>>>
>>>> Opinions?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:20:25 -0500, Bjorn Brandstedt
>>>> <super_deuce@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David,
>>>>> For the purpose of eliminating any drag between the two rear axles,
>>>>> it doesn't matter which axle/flange is replaced with a blank.
>>>>> Bjorn
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: David Cole <DavidCole@tk7.net>
>>>>>> To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 lockout hubs installed - fuel savings?
>>>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 10:15:04 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which axle would you remove? One from the front rear or one from
>>>>>> the rear-rear?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:29:35 EST, <Recovry4x4@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can net the same results here by removing one axle shaft.
>>>>>>> Same number of bolts but no nuts and no crawling under the truck.
>>>>>>> I carry a small bowl to catch the little bit of gear oil that
>>>>>>> drips out. Once done removing or installing the shaft I dump the
>>>>>>> gear oil (maybe an ounce) into the fuel tank. Laugh if you will,
>>>>>>> Ive been doing it for decades with big trucks without any
>>>>>>> problems. I do use a front drive flange as a cover when the
>>>>>>> shaft is removed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a message dated 3/7/03 1:08:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>>> mgmv@auroragroup.co.uk writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you are looking for major fuel savings for a long journey on
>>>>>>>> highway
>>>>>>>> roads then you can simply unbolt the rear prop shaft between the
>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>> rear axels so that it is only driving the middle axel. This can
>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>> massive fuel savings, but is only worth doing for long highway
>>>>>>>> journeys.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Dave
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