From: Nigel Hay - MILWEB (Nigel@milweb.net)
Date: Wed Mar 12 2003 - 04:01:03 PST
Going to war without France is like going duck hunting without
your accordion."
-- Donald Rumsfeld, U.S. Secretary of Defence
"As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure."
-- Jacques Chirac, President of France
"As far as France is concerned, you're right."
-- Rush Limbaugh
"They've taken their own precautions against al-Qa'ida. To prepare for
an attack, each Frenchman is urged to keep duct tape, a white flag, and a
three-day supply of mistresses in the house."
-- Argus Hamilton
"Somebody was telling me about the French Army rifle that was being
advertised on eBay the other day -- the description was, 'Never shot.
Dropped once.'"
-- Rep. Roy Blunt (MO)
"The French will only agree to go to war when we've proven we've found
truffles in Iraq."
-- Dennis Miller
"What do you expect from a culture and a nation that exerted more of its
national will fighting against DisneyWorld and Big Macs than the Nazis?"
-- Dennis Miller
Raise your right hand if you like the French .. raise both hands if you
are French.
"You know why the French don't want to bomb Saddam Hussein? Because he
hates
Americans, he loves mistresses and wears a beret. He is French, people."
-- Conan O'Brien
"I don't know why people are surprised the French don't want to help
us get Saddam out of Iraq. After all,
France wouldn't help us get the Germans out of France."
-- Jay Leno
Q. What did the mayor of Paris say to the German Army as they entered
the city in WWII?
A. Table for 100,000 m'sieur?
"The last time the French ask for 'more proof' it came marching into
Paris under a German flag."
-- David Letterman
"Do you know how many Frenchmen it takes to defend Paris? It's not
known,
it's never been tried."
-- Rep. R. Blount (MO)
"Do you know it only took Germany three days to conquer France in WWII?
And that's because it was raining."
-- John Xereas, Manager, DC Improv
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve & Jeanne Keith" <cckw@attbi.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] The French
> Charles Lindberg, the Pacifist also shot down a Japanese plane in WW2....
>
> To my extensive mil history knowledge, there has never been a war between
> 2 countries with freely elected governments. That being the case, the way
to
> 'peace' would seem clear!
>
> Steve AKA Dr Deuce
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Seidts" <jseidts@astory.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] The French
>
>
> > I take exception to those who are petty enough to get on this forum to
> bash
> > those who are brave enough to leave friends and family for what they
> believe
> > in. Those people are courageous- there is no other word for it.
> >
> > Courage in any form, even if it lies in the heart and spirit of your
> enemy,
> > should be admired. We need more people in the world like that- no
> > question... And if you're that kind of person, more power to you. But
> > think CAREFULLY about what you are saying when you flippantly consign a
> > brave, conscientious, moral person to the ranks of "human target."
> >
> > Charles Lindberg resigned his commission as a Lieutenant Colonel from
the
> > Army Air Corps prior to WWII because he disagreed with the international
> > policies which our Government touted in the years leading up to WWII.
He
> > was right; in the aftermath of WWII the Japanese political machine
> referred
> > often to pre war American Policy as BIG reasons that they changed their
> > focus from China to the Pacific and began the war. Lindberg's
contention
> > was that we were pushing the Japanese toward belligerent acts, and that
> the
> > China problem was in many ways created by the domination of their
politics
> > by Western countries for over a century and would be best resolved if we
> let
> > them work it out.
> >
> > Despite his views, after war broke out, he immediately offered his
> services
> > to the War Department. Considering that his specialty was long range
> flight
> > and all the intricasies surrounding it, you would think that he would be
a
> > necessary part of the team. It was almost not to be.
> >
> > Roosevelt personally interfered with his application for a new
commission
> > and he never received one. He was very bitter about the public
> shellacking
> > he had taken by the isolationists before WWII, and Lindberg was at the
top
> > of his list.
> >
> > Nevertheless, Lindberg found his way as a civilian advisor to the South
> > Pacific, where he was personally responsible for more than DOUBLING the
> > range of our long range interceptors there, the P38 Lightnings. Of
> course,
> > this was almost 2 years after these operations had started.
> >
> > We are very good at persecuting minorities in this country, so let's not
> be
> > too quick to judge the voices of caution and reason, and even those who
> > vehemently oppose our points of view. There might be some truth to
them,
> > and in the midst of saber rattling, MOAB dropping, and JP4 fumes, some
of
> > these options may be better in the long term.
> >
> > Don't know if you saw the news today, but it looks like Tony Blair is
> going
> > to take a bath as PM. If he does, we are left with very few options in
> > regards to the UN, which means we are standing pretty much alone against
> the
> > UN Security Council. We might be standing alone as Charles Lindberg was
> > standing near the outbreak of WWII, and our options limited not in this
> > conflict, but the MUCH MORE serious ones which will surely follow. I
have
> > had to think hard about it, and I know that S Hussein is as bad a dude
as
> > needs to be removed- but I think we need to listen to the international
> > community more on this one.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jason Frisch" <jenjas@cox.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 12:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] The French
> >
> >
> > > I like to think of those going as "human shields" more as "human
> > > targets"................
> > >
> > > Jason
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Julian Burke" <julian@knology.net>
> > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:56 PM
> > > Subject: [MV] The French
> > >
> > >
> > > > With all of the talk of the French and how we hate them now,
> wasn't
> > > it
> > > > France some years back that wouldn't let us fly over their air space
> to
> > > get
> > > > to a military objective?? As I remember, there were some
un-Americans
> > > that
> > > > said "Thank you France" much like the un-Americans who are going to
> > > Bagdad
> > > > to act as "human shields". How lest we forget! Julian
> > > >
> > > >
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