Re: [MV] M113s in Iraq

From: Jon Shoop (shoop19@brick.net)
Date: Thu Mar 27 2003 - 22:16:35 PST


Louvers developed after desert storm by a military unit. They were making
them when the MVPA sponsored a tour of Red River Depot several years ago.

Panels are removable and reflective, giving several options as far as
recognition goes.

Got a tour of the Bradley re-build program.

Jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Grammont" <islander@midmaine.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] M113s in Iraq

>
>
> >In the war footage I can see on the LHS of the M113s
> >(they seem to be A2 version) what looks like louvres.
> >Is this a retrofit NBC pack?
>
> I think this is some sort of vehicle identification device. I have seen
> them on other AFVs and it appears to be loosely attached as if simply
> hung on the side of the armor. But that is just a guess.
>
> >Also, I saw a report stating that some Iraqi tanks were knocked out.
> >But the vehicle shown was unmistakably an Amtrak (AAV-7), seems like
> >the reporters still have a lot to learn about AFV recognition.
>
> They are still, on the whole, morons when it comes to identifying
> military equipment. And don't even get me started with their take on
> military tactics and proceedures...
>
> >This vehicle was a catastrophic......
>
> The leading theory, or so I heard, is that it was knocked out by a
> Russian AT-14 Cornet. The thing that is troubling... this missle would
> have to been sold to Iraq very recently since they did not have them in
> their 1991 arsenal. Just more evidence that Russia is against this war
> for a bunch of reasons they would rather not have made public.
>
> Steve
>
>
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