From: Thomas M McHugh (tmmchugh@msn.com)
Date: Tue Apr 15 2003 - 08:24:34 PDT
Unless we were short drivers, I usually drove a jeep to Annual Training. I
have accumulated lots of mileage during my 43 years military, (3yrs Army, 30
yrs NJARNG, 10 Army reserve), we drove turnpike & thruway often & never had
a problem. A poor front end adjustment, poor tires & an untrained driver
could be a cause of a problem.. I doubt it would lift without a unique set
of circumstances. The only jeep & trailer accident was caused by a Nitwit
letting the Jeep pass & pulling out into the trailer. The trailer being hit
sideways flipped the Jeep & Trailer spilling people & contents all over 4
lanes of the NY Thruway. No deaths, 3 badly injured military members.
The only trailer problem on my M38A1 years ago was the lack of good brakes
when a loaded trailer was pushing. Extremely bad at stop signs after
stopping. Then pulling up a vehicle length at a time. The trailer pushes
almost half a jeep length. As long as you leave proper distances, it is
OK.
On a trip to Alaska in 1990, I had trucks pass me doing 80 - 90 in the
northwest. I am not sure that even the wind from that speed would do it.
With an Anti-Sway Bar, there was little push as they went bye.
Tom McHugh, NJ
1952 M38A1
M-416 Trailer
MVPA, MTA, KWVA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Ellis" <stuellis@attbi.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Danger M416
> In 7 years I have never experienced anything like that towing my 416. I
> don't know who told you that, but they don't know what they are talking
> about.
>
>
> "Stu"
> Southern New Hampshire, USA
> "Live Free Or Die"
>
> Member In Good Standing of the following Military Vehicle Clubs:
> Military Vehicle Preservation Assoc.
> Merrimack Valley Military Vehicle Collectors
> Green Mountain Military Vehicle Club
> Vehicles:
> 1967 M151A1 Jeep
> 1964 M416 1/4 Ton Trailer
> 1986 M1009 CUCV Blazer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "micdunn" <micdunn@ev1.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Danger M416
>
>
> > Claude, if you put the load forward of the centre of gravity, you should
> > have no problems. I personally try to have about 150 pounds tongue
weight.
> > The only problem I ever had was going down a mountain in Ireland at
about
> 95
> > mph. The 416 (with about 800 pounds on board) began bouncing side to
side
> > severely enough to affect my Jeep's steering. I let off the gas and
> dropped
> > down to 85 and the problem did not happen again. With the 416 empty, I
> have
> > driven 120 with no problems. Yes, 120, it has an LS1 Chevy motor, and
> Dodge
> > one ton brakes. (Love those Autobahns!)
> > The only time my 416 has 'lifted up', has been off-roading at over 30
mph
> > over severe terrain. A tractor trailer has never affected the trailer or
> my
> > steering.
> > -Sarge
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <J310L@aol.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2003 9:49 PM
> > Subject: [MV] Danger M416
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Has anyone had bad experiences when pulling a M416 trailer behind
their
> > jeep on the open highway? I was told that when a tractor trailer goes
by
> > the wind gust lifts the trailer up. Then the jeep may roll over and
cause
> > an accident.
> > >
> > > Claude ----N.Y.
> > > 53 M38A1& M416
> > > MVPA # 20758
> > > MTA
> > >
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