From: Jim Newton (jnewton@laurel.com)
Date: Tue Jun 10 2003 - 18:27:20 PDT
Hi Jess...
Yes, you're right. Boy, every time I post on the MV list I learn
EVERYTHING about the topic!
Yes, it is called landing mat, PSP ("pierced steel planks"), and
Marsten or Marston matting.
My local source has a HUGE pile of it for $20 per piece. It is rusty,
but quite useable and in excellent condition...in fact, most of it
looks unused and there are bundles of 20 pieces still banded together.
A few pieces are torch cut, but not very many (only 4 or 5 that I
saw). The yard is located in Redwood City, CA (in the SF Bay Area).
Let me know if you want the contact info. Just leave me a bundle of
20 pieces for my project! ;) Here are some pictures I took today of
the pile (sorry for the poor image quality...I took them with the
built-in camera in my Palm Zire 71):
http://www.ikessurplus.com/psp/
Should I pack a bunch up in the deuce and bring it to the
Hornet/Woodson shows and sell it to you all (for a small finder's fee
and delivery charge)?
Thanks.
>Tom and Ike
>I think you are talking about Marsten Mats..
>I have a friend that has some for sale..
>they make great extra plates on the
>front of a sherman or side of a duece,
>the mats are 10 feet long and about 2
>foot wide.. you could just about cut one
>in half to make a cool place to park your
>jeep. kinda look like this:
>-------------------------------------------------------
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Gary Haas of Arrowhead Chapter MVPA
>near Fort Worth Texas has them for
>sale $50 for one, or $40 ea. for 2
>or more....shipping is extra.
>Photo available upon request..
>Contact Gary at gary.f.haas@lmco.com
>or johaas@swbell.net if interested.
>Jess Minton
>42 GPW
>Arlington, TX
>
>
>
>At 05:48 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>>Jim,
>>
>>The landing mats are called "PSP". Pierced Steel Planks. They are put
>>together with a common Peevee, normally used with rolling logs. We used
>>them in the Engineer Aviation Bn,s. Haven't seen PSP for a long while.
>>What price range are they now ???
>>
>>During my 43 years in the military, I was assigned often in early 1951 -
>>1953, to put down 1000 + ft or more & remove after them after supply planes
>>landed on them. After being bent, they are terrible to get apart. During
>>1959 to 1967 we used them on areas that had no roads yet. That caused them
>>to become so bent up, they were scrapped.
>>
>>Be aware, that they become quite slippery when wet & mud can also cause
>>slippage. It is possible to install it upside down & use the sharper
>>edging to give traction. Upside down will be a major event to get them
>>apart.
>>
>>Tom McHugh, NJ
>>1952 M38A1
>>M-416 Trailer
>>MVPA, MTA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jim Newton" <jnewton@laurel.com>
>>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:40 PM
>>Subject: [MV] Landing Mats on a Dirt Slope For Deuce Parking...
>>
>>
>>
>>Hi List...
>>
>>OK, here's a weird question, or actually a request for comments.
>>Thousands of MVC brains is better than one!
>>
>>My family may be moving into a new larger house in the same town (the
>>kids are growing too fast). The house has a great view of the SF bay
>>area and a huge shop.
>>
>>It has a lot more parking space than our current house, so the deuce
>>could get its own permanent space in the driveway. Yay! No more
>>pissed neighbors because of the deuce that roams the neighborhood
>>every 72 hours in search of a new parking space! ;)
>>
>>But, it could get even better. This new house has a hill that goes
>>from the front driveway down next to the house into the back yard.
>>The area is about 20' wide and is about a 20-degree slope. This area
>>isn't suitable for a normal vehicle parking space, and is not used for
>>anything...is is bare dirt and too steep for any other use. So I was
>>thinking about parking the deuce there, on the slope, out of the way,
>>making use of otherwise wasted land. Otherwise I would have to park
>>the deuce up on the driveway and it would be in plain sight.
>>
>>I'm not concerned about the slope as far as the deuce rolling out of
>>control because I will put large railroad tie stops at the bottom of
>>the space, pinned in place with steel rods driven deep into the dirt,
>>and back the deuce down right to the stops. That will make it easier
>>to drive it back up onto the driveway. Even without the parking
>>brakes, the deuce would be held from any possibility of rolling. The
>>slope is about a 35.5% grade, and the deuce is rated for a maximum 60%
>>grade, so it can definitely handle the climb in and out of the spot.
>>
>>I have local access to a huge pile of very rusty steel military
>>landing mats (similar to these:
>>www.i10surplus.com/graphics/product11_fullsize.jpg) for just the scrap
>>steel price. I was thinking about laying about 30 of these landing
>>mats on the hill and interlocking them into a strip down the whole
>>hill and wide enough for the deuce, then pinning them into place with
>>steel rebar to keep them from sliding or shifting. I could then park
>>the deuce on them and even if the dirt got muddy I could still drive
>>the deuce up and out without ripping up the dirt hill. I could even
>>erect a canopy over this area to protect and obscure the deuce.
>>
>>Has anyone every done something like this with landing mats, or have
>>any suggestions or comments?
>>
>>Parking the deuce on this slope would put the deuce low and behind the
>>fence and out of sight from the street and the house. This means
>>happy neighbors and happy wife! ;)
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>--
>>
>>Jim "Ike" Newton
>>
>> o 1984 M1007 CUCV Military Suburban
>> 6.2 Liter (378 CID) Turbo-Diesel Engine
>> 5/4 Ton Cargo Capacity, 4WD
>>
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>> 478 CID Turbo-Diesel Multi-Fuel Engine
>> Air Shift Front Axle
>> 2 1/2 Ton Cargo Capacity, 6WD
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