From: Steve Grammont (islander@midmaine.com)
Date: Wed Jul 30 2003 - 20:48:10 PDT
Hello Jim,
I asked a US Army LTC tanker friend of mine about this and here is his
response (I sent him the links you posted to this list):
Sure do. I'm pretty sure they went with the Brewster Device Sub-Cal
trainer. Although, when we used the Brewster, the targets were generic
silhouettes and not those nice looking ones. It could be that those you
showed me were used strictly for tracking and recognition. They also
appear to be incapable of being lifted, which is something you would need
on a live fire sub-cal range (to replicate the appearance of targets).
Unfortunately, I do not know the manufacturer or official nomenclature
(other than scaled target).
They are used on Mini Tank Ranges. Although, they aren't used as much
anymore, with the advent of better gunner simulators and such.
They are cost effective and easy to set up however, making them desired
by tank crewmen.
http://pao.hood.army.mil/tsc/Media/Catalog/Word%20Docs/series17.doc
http://call.army.mil/products/nftf/novdec97/sect3.htm
Here are links with short blurbs about the min tank range:
http://www.eaglehorse.org/ftx_gunnery.htm (approx 2/3 way down)
http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/lsm/dhmg/crew031.html (1/4 way down)
Hope that helps you out!
Steve
>
>Hi All...
>
>I still need some help here.
>
>Thanks to a few list members, I have collected more info on these
>unusual plastic Soviet tank silhouette cards, and want to find out if
>anyone on the list has used these in their military training and might
>have more information.
>
>It seems that these plastic placards were issued and used by the US
>military, and are actually targets that go into some sort of an indoor
>target simulator training range system for tank gunner crews.
>
>Apparently, it was used to train crew served weapons teams with TOW
>missiles and other anti-tank systems without using expensive
>ammunition.
>
>These plastic tank cards were placed into the system, and the tank
>gunner crew would practice recognition, and shooting enemy tanks with
>a simulated anti-tank weapon that actually fired .22 caliber rounds at
>these plastic cards. They would also practice range and distance
>recognition and target direction from the size and position of the
>silhouettes.
>
>One person mentioned the system was called the Invatron, but a search
>on the web did not yield anything.
>
>I'm utterly baffled on this item and cannot find a shred of
>substantiation (like a web site or TM) that shows information about
>the system. I searched through MILDOCS.COM and found a lot of target
>simulator systems but nothing that shows these targets.
>
>Any information from you is really appreciated!
>
>Here are the images again:
>
> http://www.cucv.net/tanks_01.jpg
> http://www.cucv.net/tanks_02.jpg
>
>Thank you.
>
>--
>
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