Re: [MV] oil pressure and oil for diesel

From: rertman@ix.netcom.com
Date: Mon Aug 11 2003 - 14:25:53 PDT


Over the years, I've had a number of diesel vehicles, including
MB cars, Dodge/Cummins trucks and a couple of tractors Case
580E backhoe and John Deere 1070. I've always used Delo engine
oil and the engines have just kept on going...even longer and
better than that battery bunny.

Dick

David Cole wrote:
>
> I was talking to a guy who has a Dodge Cummins turbo engine with 560K miles
> on the original block and head. He bought it at 520K to pull his 5th wheel
> trailer.
>
> Dave
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 13:14:59 -0400, m35products <m35prod@optonline.net>
> wrote:
>
> > 160,000+ trouble-free miles on my Dodge/Cummins using Rotella 10-40.
> > Nuff
> > said. apb
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Employee@MilVeh.com"
> > <milveh@sbcglobal.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 11:03 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] oil pressure and oil for diesel
> >
> >
> >> I have been advised never run 15-40 or 20-50 in a
> >> diesel. You may be getting away with it, but you are
> >> paying a hidden price according to this article:
> >>
> >> "Multi viscosity oils are one of the great
> >> improvements in oils, but they should be chosen
> >> wisely. Always use a multi grade with the narrowest
> >> span of viscosity that is appropriate for the
> >> temperatures you are going to encounter. In the winter
> >> base your decision on the lowest temperature you will
> >> encounter, in the summer, the highest temperature you
> >> expect. The polymers can shear and burn forming
> >> deposits that can cause ring sticking and other
> >> problems. 10W-40 and 5W-30 require a lot of
> >> polymers(synthetics excluded) to achieve that range.
> >> This has caused problems in diesel engines, but fewer
> >> polymers are better for all engines. The wide
> >> viscosity range oils, in general, are more prone to
> >> viscosity and thermal breakdown due to the high
> >> polymer content. It is the oil that lubricates, not
> >> the additives. Oils that can do their job with the
> >> fewest additives are the best.
> >>
> >> Very few manufacturers recommend 10W-40 any more, and
> >> some threaten to void warranties if it is used. It was
> >> not included in this article for that reason. 20W-50
> >> is the same 30 point spread, but because it starts
> >> with a heavier base it requires less viscosity index
> >> improvers (polymers) to do the job. AMSOIL can
> >> formulate their 10W-30 and 15W-40 with no viscosity
> >> index improvers but uses some in the 10W-40 and 5W-30.
> >> Other multigrade synthetics may not use VI improvers
> >> either. The full literature available from the oil
> >> company should include this information. Follow your
> >> manufacturer's recommendations as to which weights are
> >> appropriate for your vehicle."
> >>
> >>
> >> --- patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> wrote:
> >> > Mine oil pressure holds 65 lbs at idle cold, and 50
> >> > lbs at idle hot. I
> >> > use 15W40, stock multifuel (fuel compensator
> >> > bypassed) non-whistler
> >> > turbo.
> >> >
> >> > I have seen pressures as low as 20 psi at idle on
> >> > other trucks. I
> >> > wonder what is exactly normal.
> >> >
> >> > Patrick
> >> >
> >> > "Employee@MilVeh.com" wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I can tell you what mine runs, it holds 30+ psi at
> >> > > idle which is at 600-650 rpms with Shell's
> >> > industrial
> >> > > 30 wt.
> >> > >
> >> > > I am running stock a multi-fuel with a whistler
> >> > turbo
> >> > > and I love the engine. Although I was a little
> >> > taken
> >> > > back when a guy who owns a trucking company
> >> > refered to
> >> > > the engine as a "disposable" and "not worth
> >> > > rebuilding." Sure a Cat or Cummins is a better
> >> > > engine, but they are newer and cost a lot more
> >> > too.
> >> > > Considering the low price I paid for my truck,
> >> > this
> >> > > Continental runs like a champ and since I fixed
> >> > the
> >> > > fuel density compensator I have had zero problems
> >> > with
> >> > > it. Very happy with it and I get about 10 mpg.
> >> > too.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- "Fred H. Schlesinger" <fred@schlesingers.net>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > What is normal? Are the gauges in the truck
> >> > pretty
> >> > > > accurate?
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
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> Dave
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