From: Edwin M. Dyer, III (sturmtiger1944@yahoo.com)
Date: Mon Oct 13 2003 - 15:05:02 PDT
Heh. Yea, I'd heard that when they actually ran it
live, it just wasn't happening. Watch Predator
close...IIRC, you never saw any empty brass coming out
of those weapons. :)
At least in T2, it was a true blank-firing minigun. If
I had the cash, I'd have bought the prop! :)
Likely a good reason "Ahnold" dropped that sucker
after he got done shooting up the cop cars. I seem to
recall even he said it was a beast to carry, let alone
fire.
- Ed
--- Jonathan Boos <acfarer@cox.net> wrote:
> Correct me if I'm wrong guys, wasn't the mini gun
> powered by General
> Electric as opposed to a recoil or gas operated
> unit? I mean really, who is
> going to carry the power supply? While the Predator
> unit was a hoot to watch
> and they were relatively accurate in thier rate of
> fire multiplied by the
> time the weapon was engaged = amount of ammo used,
> equation, they also did a
> good job of hiding the extension cord that made the
> barrels spin.
> I also seem to recall an article in a shooting
> magazine written after the
> movie came out and they actually made an attempt at
> running one from the
> hip. They said that they could not manage it for
> more than a few rounds at a
> time. I guess Jesse Ventura was not available for
> the test firing. (Insert
> tongue in cheek here)
> JB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Edwin M. Dyer, III"
> <sturmtiger1944@yahoo.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Miniguns
>
>
> > There was a "man pack" minigun, the XM214, IIRC.
> Thing
> > is, a minigun wouldn't be very practical as a
> squad
> > weapon. As some of you know, grunts hate carrying
> more
> > weight than they have to. A minigun would consume
> > massive amounts of ammunition and to make it
> > worthwhile, about every squad member would need to
> be
> > toting ammo to feed the thing, let alone the
> > complaints from the gunner having to carry it.
> >
> > Asides, to make it "portable", the caliber would
> have
> > to be small. The XM214 was 5.56mm. A .50cal.,
> asides
> > from not being a ravenous consumer of ammo, has a
> much
> > more powerful round and can even penetrate light
> skins
> > with the right ammo. Thus, the twin .50s would be
> much
> > heavier hitting but obviously, not having the
> volume
> > of fire of a minigun.
> >
> > BTW, there is a guy who makes a .177cal. replica
> of
> > the minigun from Predator. It costs about $4,000.
> It
> > comes complete with weapon, feed chute, and the
> > backpack. Also, Long Mountain gun works ( I think
> that
> > is their name ) sold the blank firing 5.56mm
> minigun
> > from Terminator 2 for about $200K.
> >
> > - Ed
> >
> >
> > > From: "Paul A. Thomas"
> <bluewhale@jaxkneppers.com>
> > > > umm... I never hear anything on list about the
> > > weapon the movie makers
> > > have
> > > > loved the past 10 years, the 'man held'
> mini-gun.
> > > ( see Arnohld movies
> > > > like Predator, T2... or Steven Segal's Under
> Seige
> > > ) Is the idea
> > > > deterrence or wiping out any opponents? In
> the
> > > scheme of things I can't
> > > > believe the cost difference between twin 50's
> and
> > > a mini gun would mean
> > > > anything. Or would the powers that be worry
> about
> > > the ... cong, Iraqi old
> > > > regime, whomever getting a functional mini-gun
> to
> > > use on us? I never
> > > > considered that, but it Would be a devastating
> > > weapon to be used on
> > > > us. Perhaps they could fit it with a
> 'failsafe'
> > > self destruct if we lost
> > > it?
> >
> >
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