From: Marc Strangfeld (curlyjoe98@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Oct 22 2003 - 23:53:01 PDT
Patrick
I doubt the throwout bearing could be causing the
noise because the only time it does anything is when
you disengage the clutch. I also noticed a noise when
my deuce was in neutral but I didn't really worry
about it. My pickup has made the same noise for years
and I haven't had a problem with it yet. Pilot
bearing? Maybe. Although your tranny input shaft is
not rotating in the pilot bearing when the clutch is
engaged it still could be worn enough to not provide
proper support/alignment. All said and done if it
still shifts and drives good I'd leave it alone.
Marc
An afterthought is that maybe what we're hearing is
gear lash from not having any load on the tranny.
--- patrick jankowiak <eccm@swbell.net> wrote:
> Is the front shaft of the transmission not supported
> by the pilot
> bearing which is fitted into the rear end of the
> crankshaft?
> Which bearing is out of order?
>
> I have no driveline vibration, but I do have a small
> increase in noise
> idling in neutral when the clutch is out (engaged)
> versus in
> (disengaged). Could this be the pilot bearing or
> throwout bearing?
>
> Marc Strangfeld wrote:
> >
> > Thanks to all
> >
> > It just happens that a specialty clutch repair
> shop is
> > only 40 miles away. Furthermore, the owner (sole
> > operator) is familiar with the multifuel engines.
> He
> > is a goldmine of information on these engines. I
> > don't know how it took this long to find out about
> the
> > guy. Anyway, he quoted me almost half of Memphis
> > Equipment's price to rebuild the clutch disc and
> > pressure plate. All I need now is a pilot bearing
> and
> > throwout bearing. A new oil seal is ordered.
> >
> > Transmission
> >
> > The main bearing supporting the input shaft is
> out.
> > The good news is that the driveline vibration I've
> > heard since I bought the truck (Feb. 03') may be
> > figured out. The bad news is that I've been
> driving
> > the truck like this for 10,000 miles so who knows
> what
> > else got chewed up by the ground up bearing. I'm
> > taking the tranny to a local mechanic to get his
> > opinion on what needs to be replaced so I can
> decide
> > if a takeout tranny is a better way to go. I'll
> keep
> > you posted.
> >
> > It may seem like a stupid question but is there a
> > wrong way to shift a synchro tranny? Some people
> tell
> > me not to use the clutch at all when upshifting
> but it
> > doesn't shift smoothly for me. (I have shifted
> other
> > trucks this way and have had good luck but all
> were
> > non synchro.) Often I'll double clutch when
> > downshifting going uphill. I feel I can shift
> quicker
> > this way and then the engine RPMs are were they
> need
> > to be when the clutch is engaged. I've been told
> > double clutching a synchro tranny is bad. Is it?
> >
> > Thanks again
> >
> > Marc Strangfeld
> >
> > --- jonathon <jemery@execpc.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >1. Has anyone used rebuilt clutch parts from
> > > Memphis
> > > >Equipment?
> > > >
> > > >2. What are your thoughts on a "button" clutch
> and
> > > >the "other" kind. (I have a button clutch and
> I'm
> > > >happy)
> > > >
> > > >3. Are there any NOS pressure plates and
> clutch
> > > discs
> > > >around?
> > > >
> > > >4. Anyone on this list have these parts they
> want
> > > to
> > > >sell?
> > >
> > > Personally I would skip all the mil parts
> people. Go
> > > to a local truck
> > > brake/clutch shop, they will be able to get or
> > > rebuild or reline all your
> > > stuff. I got all my M35 brake parts from such a
> > > place locally. More recently
> > > I've gotten all my gama goat clutch parts and
> brake
> > > parts from them. They
> > > know trucks, they know what they are doing, my
> > > feeling is that they would be
> > > a better place to deal with and if there is
> anything
> > > wrong, you know who to
> > > go back to. But that's just my opinion.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >5. After taking the flywheel off, does
> anything
> > > need
> > > >to be indicated in to assure the transmission
> is on
> > > >centerline?
> > > >
> > > >6. What is the torque specs for the flywheel
> > > bolts?
> > > >
> > > >7. Is there a service manual that covers this
> > > >information?
> > > >I have various manuals but nothing that tells
> me
> > > this
> > > >stuff.
> > >
> > > Is it a multi-fuel? If so you should be looking
> at
> > > the 361 manuals (I think
> > > it's 361???) that would be TM9-2320-361-20 and
> -34.
> > > I have all of them and I
> > > know it's in there somewhere but you often have
> to
> > > look in both to get the
> > > complete proceedure.
> > >
> > > later,
> > >
> > > je
> > >
> >
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