From: David Cole (DavidCole@tk7.net)
Date: Mon Nov 10 2003 - 08:17:49 PST
Thanks, I found it in a newer copy of that TM I pulled off Logsa. The 1963
version I had didn't have it in it.
Does anyone have more info on this kit? I would like to make one up, but
obviously the military did some engineering on this setup and I don't want
to reinvent the wheel. Any idea how long those poles are they used for the
A frame? Does anyone else have any details on this rig? If anyone is
interested, I'll put a drawing of the rig on my website once I get it done.
I think I have most of the materials already. I'm thinking of using some
2 1/2" diameter pipe - 20 feet long for the uprights. Has anyone actually
used this rig? I'm thinking that actually getting the rig in the air might
be a challenge in itself. But it sure would be useful.
I've been sand blasting my dump truck box and I might weld in some brackets
to accomodate this rig if I can figure it out and get it done before it
gets excessively cold. I was spraying paint while the temp hovered around
38 this weekend. If it wasn't for hardener, this would not be possible!
Dave
On Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:47:06 -0800 (PST), Joe Foley <redmenaced@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Page 2-146 of TM 9-2320-211-10.
>
> One caution, they appear to have neglected to invert
> the pintle hook, I would think the cable should be
> pulling on the larger part of the hook/hitch, not on
> the "latch".
>
> Joe
>
>
>
>
> --- David Cole <DavidCole@tk7.net> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know the TM that would have info on the
>> A Frame crane setup that I have heard about for the 5 ton M54 series? Or
>> does anyone have picts of this rig in action?
>>
>> Has anyone on the list used this setup before? I'd
>> like to put one together.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:34:43 -0500, David Cole
>> <DavidCole@tk7.net> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > How do we know that these pictures were
>> classified? Or is this opinion > that they "should" have been
>> classified.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >
>> > On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:55:36 -0600, Doc Bryant
>> <rbhonk1@cox.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What hit the Abrams has not been verified and
>> came as a surprise to our
>> >> forces. I'm therefore puzzled why you are so
>> sure you know what it was.
>> >> Plus, that doesn't change anything... the pics
>> were classified and they
>> >> were leaked. Classified is classified even if it
>> doesn't make sense to
>> >> the individual for such a designation.
>> >>
>> >> < I saw where the report is sensitive. Not
>> classified. I also did not
>> >> notice any great uproar anywhere else over these
>> pictures being bandied
>> >> about.
>> >>
>> >> The Abrahms has been sold to foreign countries. One can easily assume
>> >> other
>> >> nations intelligence outfits have looked at the
>> tank very carefully. >> And
>> >> that is an assumption that I could take to any
>> bank and cash.
>> >>
>> >> In testing weapons, if you have a good idea the
>> composition of the armor >> you
>> >> are trying to breech, its a standard practice to
>> be able to establish a >> test
>> >> material and then extrapolate that data to give
>> you an idea how it would
>> >> perform if that weapon hit the real McCoy. Obviously, you can not
>> plan >> in
>> >> that test for Clausewitz's fog of war, but you
>> can understand what the
>> >> projectile will do to a roughly equivelent armor
>> shield. Then, if you >> are
>> >> worried about any fudge factors, just dial up the
>> performance a notch or
>> >> two. Overkill is never a bad idea.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The weapon wasn't thought to be effective but the
>> gunner got a lucky
>> >> hit and found something that wasn't planned on.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> The Golden BB theory? No. Although its done,
>> and we all know it, one
>> >> should never field a weapons system based on the
>> hope for lucky shot.
>> >>
>> >> Never assume that the enemy knows what they are
>> doing
>> >> and give them intel they didn't have on a silver
>> platter.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> True. We should have not then allowed FMS of
>> these tanks to other >> nations.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Doc Bryant
>> >>
>> >>
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>> -- Dave
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