From: Glenn Shaw (wolf.star@verizon.net)
Date: Mon Feb 23 2004 - 14:04:33 PST
Hi
They are now changing their tactic and advertising to the customer in
advance that there will be no fine and that they are not the police.
But they will charge a fee if you violate your contract. You sign that
in writing. Your alternative is just don't do business with any car
rental place that does that. If you sign the contract they've got you
and the charge goes on your card.
As far as your button on the dash for the OBDII memory, good idea (LOL)
just remember as your crashing to press the button before the air bag
explodes ! Oh and by the way if the OBDII memory is tampered with the
vehicle will fail its inspection in most states that are going to the
new CA type standards. Lets face it they have got you.
Just going to have to drive our MV's more :)
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
Behalf Of rertman@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 4:36 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] A little MV content but more on "Big Brother"
The renter in CT got that dismissed because car rental companies are not
law enforcement agencies and cannot asses a fine for speeding.
As for the "black box" functions in privately owned new cars, I'm sure
someone will come up with a way to defeat the data acquisition and/or
erase the memory with a button on the dash and the box's memory will
stay blank.
Dick
Glenn Shaw wrote:
>
> Hi Dave
> For several years now unknown to most people the computers in OBDII
> vehicles have been able to act as a "black box" of sorts. No one knew
> about it until some smart lawyers began requesting the info from the
> crash vehicle under discovery. Once people found out about it there
was
> a big stink brewing and now the vehicle manufacturers are actually
> telling people about it. Criminal and Civil lawyers will be
requesting
> the info as a matter of course now in all major prosecutions. The
> biggest thing is it records the speed leading up until just before air
> bag deployment. You can see where that will have a predictable effect
> in court.
>
> By the way, in regard to the rental vehicle, when you disconnect the
> system or antenna it immediately causes an alert which results in them
> assessing the fine for that too.
>
> MV content: We don't have to worry about it in our M151 :)
>
> Later
> Glenn
> M151
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
> Behalf Of David Cole
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:02 PM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] NO MV but more on "Big Brother"
>
> I recently bought a new Ford Excursion. It says in the manual that
the
> computer tracks time, distance, speed, max speed, etc for some period
of
>
> time and it warns that this information could be extracted by law
> enforcement officials if needed. Definite hints of Big Brother.
>
> I wasn't too happy about that warning.
>
> Dave
>
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