From: Mike Maynard (mike@wesleyscott.com)
Date: Fri Mar 05 2004 - 15:31:51 PST
Ray, that statement is incorrect. Dealers are required to collect sales
tax on vehicles. When you go to the DMV, you take your invoice with you
showing that you paid sales tax already, and they have a form to be
filled out. They send a copy of said form to the dealer (in our case
GL) and request the tax be sent to the state. This is exactly what
happened when I went and registered my truck. In my case, they told me
that because I was registering as Agriculture that I could actually
collect my tax back. I decided that it was too much headache for me to
deal with it. But it was possible. My point is, GL being a Dealer is
required to collect the tax. The DMV should not charge you again if you
show them your invoice paying that. GL being an entity in each state
(my doing business at the DRMO lots) is most likely require to collect
sales tax for every purchase. Just like if you buy from an online store
that has an presence in your state. It seems to me where every one gets
'scrawed' is at the DMV, when the 'friendly' clerks insist that you must
pay it there.. what do they care? Its more money in the states pocket.
Who knows... maybe they have an inside competition going on? As far as
I am concerned this is the least of the problems with GL. I really
tweaked me some that they wouldn't even let the DRMO guy help me out
with a set of jumper cables from another truck. Or that they wont tow
the trucks out of their lot to at least get them in a position feasible
for loading. I had no trouble getting on the base both times I went....
and the first time, the GL guy was not there when I went and the DRMO
guy was exceptionally helpful. He helped us load the M105 onto our
trailer, and even tried to put the M101 on with it. When it didn't fit,
he even took it back off and put it in the back of my deuce to wait for
my EUC. When the GL guy was there, the DRMO guy was barely able to even
talk to me. My 97 forms came in a reasonable amount of time (within 2
weeks of me picking things up). And I am very pleased with all the
items that I have bought... all sight unseen!! I will admit to taking a
great risk on that aspect though... ;-) I feel that there is room to
improve, but I haven't seen any direct references to bad experiences as
keep getting mentioned.... just that GL is very very bad. Maybe some
people with some of he first hand bad experiences could tell their
story? It would be most useful to the guy from GL who is here on the
list. Maybe he can use some of the information.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: Ray Fougnier [mailto:rfougnier@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 6:19 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] GL
Dear GL,
The fee I pay at the DMV is a license fee AND sales tax. NOBODY in the
automotive world collects sales tax when they sell a car, it is the DMV
that does that.
Ray
Mike Maynard wrote:
>When I registered my M35 here in NY, there was a form that had to be
>filled out for the dmv to collect the tax from GL. I did not have to
>pay sales tax again at the DMV. For that matter, I registered as
>agriculture, and the lady at the DMV told me that I could even file to
>get that tax $$ back being an ag vehicle.
>
>Mike
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Souza [mailto:John.Souza@ci.fresno.ca.us]
>Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 8:37 AM
>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [MV] GL
>
>Gene,
>
>Here is a reply that I received from Gl in January regarding the sales
>tax issue. At the bottom of his reply is the question that I posed to
>him.
>
>
>
>"Mr. Souza:
>
>Thank you for your interest in vehicle auctions from Government
>Liquidation. Government Liquidation is obligated to charge sales tax
>on
>all items sold, unless the buyer is tax exempt. Re-sellers would be
>an
>example of an exempt buyer.
>
>The tax you describe at the DMV would be a vehicle license tax, not
>additional sales tax. Please let me know if this explanation has
>answered
>your questions. Otherwise, please feel free to contact me again for a
>more
>detailed explanation.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Hunter
>
>Hunter Hoffmann
>Public Relations and Communications Manager
>Government Liquidation, LLC, a subsidiary of Liquidity Services, Inc.
>Phone: 480-609-3281
>
>
>
>
>
> "John Souza"
>
> <John.Souza@ci.fr To:
><hhoffmann@govliquidation.com>
> esno.ca.us> cc:
>
> Subject: Sales tax on
>vehicles
> 01/13/2004 06:37
>
> AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hello,
>
>I hear rumors that GL charges sales tax on every item including
>vehicles? Is this correct?
>
>I live in California and have to pay sales tax to the CA DMV when I
>transfer the vehicle. Why would I have to pay taxes on the same
>vehicle
>twice. Especially the ones that GL would issue a Form 97. I can
>understand being required to pay taxes a vehicle that no Form 97 is
>issued. It would be considered a pile of parts.
>
>I have read the website about being exempt from paying taxes. I do
>not
>claim to be exempt from paying taxes. I just want to pay tax on the
>same item once. Every other auction I have bought vehicles from, I
>have
>never paid taxes on the vehicles. I pay the sales tax at the time
>that
>I register them at the CA DMV.
>
>Can you clarify this?
>
>Awaiting your reply,
>
>John Souza
>Fresno, CA
>
>"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>>>"Geno" <truks@cs.quik.com> 3/4/04 8:45:18 PM >>>
>>>>
>>>>
>remember all the hullabaloo over the GL and TAXES.. They were charging
>TAXES
>for vehicles..and then when the "buyer" went to register..they paid
>"taxes"
>again..cause GL did not report they had already taken the money ???? It
>is
>fact. They can hummm and hahhh all they want and give all sorts of
>stories..but, they are full of it. It is true.. I do not know whether
>or not
>they have that all straightened out..but, it sure caused a lot of grief
>for
>quite a few people....
>The State of WI /MN was supposed to be starting some sort of suite
>against
>GL.??? Did that ever happen.??? They (GL) were not paying the taxes to
>the
>States - that the buyer paid to GL.
>Gene
>
>
>
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