From: Jim Cooney (triumphtrash13@eircom.net)
Date: Sat May 29 2004 - 09:39:05 PDT
Hi Gene,
Just a couple of points in reply to your comments; I did not question
anyone's rights under the First or Second Amendments. I merely pointed out
the recent dip in MV content. I do acknowledge that there is cause for
considered debate on the issue of gun ownership in your country and that you
have a "cast in stone" right under the First Amendment to make your views
known. However, my point was that political debate and not MV debate and
info,was starting to dominate list content. There are loads of lists and
forums for anyone who wants to voice their political opinions on gun laws
etc.
I had no problem with the discussion just thought it wasn't the right place
for such a large amount of politics.
You voice your entitlement to Free speech under the First Amendment but went
on to say in your post "If you don't like the discussion ... stay out of
it."
Are others not entitled to express their opinions?
I don't think anyone was laying on your freedom so please don't lay on mine!
That said, the list has got back to the one thing we all have in common and
that' our interest in MVs so Gene whatever our opinions we have managed to
accomplish that much which can't be bad.
J.Cooney, Supply and Transport Corps, Irish Army retired and real proud of
it too........
still looking for a good source of M1008A1 spare parts in Europe
----- Original Message -----
From: "SGM Eugene Pantano" <truks@cs.quik.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 11:04 PM
Subject: [MV] POLITICAL-GUNS-VEHICLES all equals our FIRST AMENDMENT
> Gents...both sides of the pond....
> I don't get into political discussions, nor do I like to rattle cages and
> take sides..BUT..this is the UNITED STATES of AMERICA...we have a
> Constitution and a Bill of Rights. In these, we have the freedom of
> speech..and our Second Amendment guarantees us the right to own firearms..
> ALL Military Vehicles carry FIREARMS..they are part of the vehicles
> gear....e.g.. - rifle carrying racks in the vehicles.....It IS OUR RIGHT
to
> own and discuss the ownership and laws being contrived by idiots like
> Clinton and the freaks that come into this country from England...MOVIE
> STARS GUYS..not you.....
> If you don't like the discussion..stay out of it. We in the United States
> won the Revolutionary War..we earned the right to own our Military
Vehicles
> and GUNS....and discuss them openly in our country. We do not have a
> dictatorial country that can tell us what to do and where to do it. .and a
> Queen Mum that can't control her own Country....yet !!
> As a 34 year ARMY veteran of this COUNTRY...not yours...I can discuss a
bit
> of related subject matter if I like (even though I have not)...It is EVERY
> American's RIGHT to do so..So please guys..lay off our freedom..and tend
to
> yours..if you have any.....
> The subject will run it's course, and everyone will get back to talking
> MV's...and if you feel "flamed"..you have been...by a pro.
> I will fight to the death anyone trying to take away the rights of any
> AMERICAN...and -- you lose..
> By the way Irish...me mom was from CORK....and some of the family fought
in
> the IRISH BRIGADE out of New York....beg'a mahon
> You would not see them against any discussion on firearms laws being
shoved
> around....
> SGM E. PANTANO, US Army Retired..and damn proud of it.
> Back to work...
>
>
>
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