From: paul carrier (paulc@teleport.com)
Date: Wed Jun 30 2004 - 10:06:49 PDT
Or look at it from the point of view that, on occasion rules get broken to
get the job done.
In Korea it was the threat that, at any time Kim il Sung would decide to
pull the lanyard and start Korean war II.
I'm in the national guard now, training time is precious. The Cav units I
supported had two weeks to get that manuver and Table VIII fire done.
Every day is precious for them. If I waited for the Army supply system to
work as designed they would be short changed. If we could get a tank back
FMC in a couple of hours then we did.
So I carried spare turret componants, rebuild kits for the next higher
echelon of maintenance and had mechanics that knew how to do the work. How
did they know ? Because for the most part they had come from a GS
maintenance company...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of Ida Heath
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 5:42 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] CANIBALS
>
>
> Isn't it sad that the United States Military personnel has decided to do
> double work and not allow the supply system to work all these years?
>
> Sonny
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dodgew200@mchsi.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 12:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] CANIBALS
>
>
> > The Navy does the same thing with it's aircraft. Too many times
> I've come
> back
> > from a deployment only to be told to rape, rob and strip full
> FMC jets so
> the
> > parts could go to a squadron that is deploying. THen we have a
> hanger full
> of
> > parts bins.....a few that actually can fly. the fun part is...each
> aircraft has
> > to fly within a certain number of days...so the big game of fix
> one jet so
> it
> > can fly ONCE...then rob all the parts back out and put them in
> yet ANOTHER
> jet
> > so it can fly....ONCE...and over and over and over...
> >
> > It's not so bad now...but cannabalization is and allways will be part of
> ANY
> > military mainteneance organization....no matter what anybody says...
> >
> > Lurker Rob
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> > > I have been watching ..and trying to stay out of the subject of
> > > cannibalizing Military Vehicles.....
> > > a subject I am very informed on. For years....too many to admit to...I
> have
> > > been right in the middle of the cannibalization of vehicles for the US
> > > Army..
> > > I guess you all have never heard of a "CANN POINT" ..?? What do you
> think it
> > > is..?? It is a place, near a Maintenance Shop, that is used for the
> storage
> > > of un-used - broke down - red-lined and various vehicles that
> may or may
> not
> > > be complete. Repair of these vehicles is not economically feasible.
> When a
> > > Battery, Company, Battalion...or whoever ...If they need a
> part from one
> of
> > > the vehicles at a "cann point"... They will send a "Authorized" parts
> > > scrounger there to get whatever part they need...he/or she - must have
> > > written authorization to get into the "point"...except in COMBAT
> AREAS....
> > > Sometimes, most of a vehicle will go with the scroungers.
> This has been
> > > going on in the Army since the Last Supper..and will continue forever
> and a
> > > day... Without cannibalization, combat areas, and line
> operations could
> come
> > > to a screeching halt. Ordering parts in Iraq, and receiving them in a
> timely
> > > manner is out of the question... My old Unit..which I am in constant
> touch
> > > with....does not order parts. They are removed from various
> "deadlined"
> > > vehicles. If there is no part available on any of the
> vehicles at a cann
> > > point...then the dead vehicle winds up there as a "parts bin"....
> > > This is how it is done gents..like it or not. It save thousands of
> > > dollars...not to mention the expedience of getting a vehicle back in
> > > action.......
> > > I have actual photos and films of a Unit in the Korea War...doing just
> what
> > > I am talking about. Why do you think busted up vehicles - to include
> > > tanks...were hauled back to a certain holding area...? It was for
> > > cannibalization...at the cann point. !! out
> here..................Gene
> > >
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