From: grntrks@juno.com
Date: Thu Jul 08 2004 - 20:00:42 PDT
Right on, Ron! Well said.
Frank Cox
USAF, 'Nam 1966
MVPA 14530
'45 GMC 353 DUKW
'66 M35A2 w/w
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 12:16:40 -0400 "Ron" <rojoha@comcast.net> writes:
> Well folks, it doesn't REALLY matter what WE consider or think
> this
> forum is or should be used for. Arthur was very clear about what it
> was for
> "In The Beginning". And we all read the list info upon sign up. If
> the
> description made you 'miserable' and you signed up anyway, surprise!
> " What
> a miserable place it would be if the only thing discussed
> was (shudder) the way that O/D was applied 18 March, 1943, in
> Indiana."
> HELLOOOOoooo!!!! That's what the list was established for! There are
> plenty
> of groups and chat rooms on Yahoo if that's what you are looking
> for.
> Belittling or ridiculing or just plain BS'ing is not the purpose of
> this
> list. Rants about Muslims, what we should do about Afghanistan,
> Iraq, Bush,
> Cheney, Kerry and the like are not, unless they have some kind of
> DIRECT
> relationship to HMV's and/or their collecting operation, and
> ownership by
> private citizens.
> Posts about MV related things for sale, anecdotes about your
> experiences
> in owning or operating an HMV, how things were done MV wise in the
> various
> branches, what colors were used when, what type of licenses, CDLs,
> insurance, titles and registration info, questions like "Anybody
> know
> anything about XYZ's products?" or "Where can I get a left handed
> franistan
> for an M977A3C2 used in Rhode Island National Guard in 1971?",
> looking for
> contact info on.... etc., are all valid topics for the list.
> Of late, a significant number of requests for info get answered
> by
> direct replies to the poster instead of the list. This is why so
> many
> questions get asked over and over and over. Because of this
> tendency, a
> search of the archives gets you only the previously asked questions,
> not the
> answers.
> A significant number of us supplied funds when Arthur asked
> for
> assistance to upgrade to better equipment to maintain the ORIGINAL
> list
> purpose. Bottom line is that it is HIS list, not ours. HIS rules
> apply, not
> our interpretation of what we think he meant or have gotten away
> with in his
> absence. And while he has been busy elsewhere for quite a while, he
> IS
> coming back. Heck, even Gerry Davidson, the originator of this list
> many
> years ago, has bailed out of it to start a new European based list
> for
> HMV's. This is ALL our loss since there seems to be a lot of WWII US
> equipment 'over there' and a lot the owners, and their experience,
> are no
> longer available to us on this list.
>
>
>
> I refer you to his last missive:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Kyle -- Mil-Veh Admin" <ack@mil-veh.org>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: 07 June, 2004 00:51
> Subject: [MV] Administrative update
>
>
> > I haven't been monitoring list traffic much over the last year or
> so,
> > counting instead on your self-discipline to keep things on-topic
> and
> > expending my energies keeping the hardware and software running. I
> have
> many
> > administrative things to do though, including culling the
> subscriber list
> of
> > dead addresses, upgrading the mailserver software, and so forth.
> The first
> > thing on the list, though, is changing my Internet service
> provider and
> > increasing my connection speed from 192K to 768K. My goal is to
> make the
> > switch as transparent as possible, but you may see some
> interruptions in
> > service over the next few days. I apologize in advance if things
> go badly,
> > but it is looking good so far. Once I have completed the cutover,
> I will
> > turn my attention to the other things that need doing.
> >
> > --Arthur
> > List Admin
> >
>
> So, like Mom used to say to me, "Mister, you think you're
> funny? Wait
> until your father gets home and we'll see how funny he thinks you
> are!"
> I don't think he's gonna be pleased about what has been going on
> here
> over the last year or so. Nor will some of the folks on the list be
> when he
> gets back into the command chair and he hands them their hats. No
> bogey men
> gonna come in the dark of night. And no social services to complain
> to when
> Dad lowers the boom. It will be like a Twilight Zone episode where
> people
> just blink out of existence...
>
> Be afraid. Be very afraid. Arthur IS coming, and I think he
> might be
> just a bit peeved over the beer spilled on his rugs and the
> cigarette burns
> on the furniture. We haven't been keeping our rooms clean as he
> asked, so
> don't be surprised when he uses a Bobcat to clean them out for us.
> If he pulls the plug on this list, so be it. Start subscribing
> to other
> lists in case he does. It will be a shame, but don't be
> surprised.......
> Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll stop at making it a moderated
> Mil-Veh
> list, which is WAY better than NO Mil-Veh list!
>
> Ron (zo)
> who is also guilty of straying from the path of the enlightened
> to the
> Darkside occasionally myself....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: 08 July, 2004 10:03
> Subject: Re: [MV] why I choose to unsubscribe
>
>
> > Correct, Mein Herr:
> >
> > It's like being invited to a dinner party, and being told what to
> talk
> > about, and what not to talk about. I consider this forum an
> ongoing social
> > event, with members coming and going, whining, complaining,
> helping,
> getting
> > helped, etc. What a miserable place it would be if the only thing
> discussed
> > was (shudder) the way that O/D was applied 18 March, 1943, in
> Indiana.
> >
> > Bring on the bitching, I say. Let's talk about anything we need
> to, in
> order
> > to make life here a little more interesting.
> >
> > Oh, and by the way: Bush Bumper stickers:
> >
> > "Let's not elect him this time, either."
> >
> > "Let's defeat him, (again)"
> >
> > "Let's lick Bush and lick Dick, and then lick Colin" (eeeeeuw)
> >
> > Arthur P. Bloom, Republican
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Herr Bookmonger" <bookmonger@verizon.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] why I choose to unsubscribe
> >
> >
> > > Seems today is a good day to be rid of lots of dead wood.
> (Michael,
> > > Jack, Cliff)
> > > I couldn't possibly enumerate how many times postings have
> lead to
> > > incredibly informative useful information.
> > > As far as off topic threads, I love a good laugh. Pity
> there are
> so
> > > many who fail to appreciate the handiness of the Delete button.
> > >
> > > Herr Bookmonger
> > > M-43 Truck Ambulance ¾ Ton 4x4
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "cliff matushin" <deuce6x6@hotmail.com>
> > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:53 PM
> > > Subject: [MV] why I choose to unsubscribe
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello, my name is Cliff. I have been a reader of this list for
> quite a
> > > > while. I have learned a lot about my truck here, but that was
> some
> time
> > > ago.
> > > > You see, this list has changed...significantly. The number of
> "off
> > > > topic"threads has surpassed the intended topic threads. The
> number of
> > > > salesmen has often made me feel like I was reading an
> informertial. I
> > > really
> > > > don't care about the good ol' days in the
> Army/Navy/Marines/CoastGuard/
> > > > Nato/Boyscouts/ etc. I really just wanted to share in the
> mutual hobby
> > of
> > > > restoring old millitary vehicles. So I will unsub tonight, go
> out in
> the
> > > > garage, and do what it is we all at one point enjoyed....play
> with my
> > big
> > > > green truck.
> > > > If you choose to flame me, don't waste the bandwidth. I
> won't see
> > it.
> > > > but rather think about why each of you found this place in the
> first
> > > place.
> > > > Best regards to all. cliff in SD
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to
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> > > To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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