From: Steve Grammont (islander@midmaine.com)
Date: Sat Jul 10 2004 - 12:33:30 PDT
Without commenting on this case in particular, I think this is a good
time to remind people about what copyright laws are regarding the use of
Internet materials without permission (a VERY touchy subject in my line
of work). Quite simply...
Many websites also go through the trouble of having "terms of use" or
copyright notifications, generally at the bottom of the page. But the
LACK of this does not mean these rights don't exist. In short, if it is
online, and it is not explicitly stated as public domain, it is not.
That is the default rule of law.
Now, things get a bit more complicated when we are talking about
reproductions of public domain materials. Best way to illustrate this is
with something we are all familiar with...
If I purchase a genuine, US Army TM it is mine to do as I please with. I
can make copies and even SELL copies if I should so choose, provided that
all materials originated directly from that original TM.
If I purchase a reproduction of a US Army TM, I am not allowed to
reproduce, redistribute, or resell any part of it for any reason without
securing the permission of whomever reproduced it. For example, I can
not purchase a TM from Portrayal Press and either make a PDF of it for
free or reproduce it for sale. The reason is because the Portrayal Press
copy is COPYRIGHTED and NOT public domain.
If I download a PDF of a US Army TM from someone else's website, I am
bound to use it as per that website's instructions. The default use is
personal use only. Anything beyond that has to be granted permission by
the owner of the website downloaded from.
If I download an image from someone else's website, same applies. Text
copied... same applies. eBay pictures... I believe these are considered
property of eBay, but if not then they are the property of the seller and
can not be reused without permission just like everything else.
Thems the rules as I knows 'em!
Steve
>From: Robert Soar <billy_ruffian@fireflyuk.net>
>To: jimweb@endgame.demon.co.uk
>Subject: Re: [MV] Was Tea under armour - now exposing a thief
>Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:51:20 +0100
>
>> On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 17:51:48 +0100, <jimweb@endgame.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> (Off topic, please take to off list e-mail,and anyone else who wishes to
>> mail, flame or otherwise contact me)
>>
>>> Hello Bob you thieving Git - still selling stuff you stole off other
>>> peoples web sites?
>>
>> No. As soon as I was made aware that the CD I had produced from
>> documents held by me and believed in good faith to be in the public
>> domain were in fact copyright I ceased to do so.
>>
>> It was my intention to supply information to the small band of Ferret
>> owners that are on the net in order to help them use and enjoytheir
>> vehicles. To that end I collated the documents I had in my possesion
>> into a CD and sold at a price to cover my costs.
>>
>> Before being made aware of copyright material being presebt on the CD
>> (made aware by negative feedback on eBay rather than by e-mail) I
>> stopped selling the CDs.
>>
>> In all I sold three Ferret CDs and two Saracen CDs for a total inclusive
>> of postage of 45.95 pounds sterling. It was never my intention to commit
>> copyright theft and I unreservedly a[pololgise for my inadvertent doing
>> so. I will happily send the gross profits to any charity of your
>> choice. As anewcomer to the world of MV ownership I feltthat this was an
>> appropriate way to share some of the information that I had been given.
>>>
>>> Don't bother bleating as our day in court for copyright will come
>>> shortly and you will be receiving the appropriate summons at both
>>> Sidlesham Close and JJ's cafe.
>>
>> As before,please take this to private e-mail and let us see if we can
>> resolve the matter rather than give money tolawyers.
>>
>> Regards, Rob
>>
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