From: Patrick Jankowiak (recycler@swbell.net)
Date: Mon Aug 30 2004 - 19:13:43 PDT
That had been thought of, but I am considering an air conditioner
for the roof. It's the only way I can get 24000 BTU here in
Texas.. I am not so picky about showing it, mostly using it :)
The mileage issue is secondary to comfort!!
Patrick
m35products wrote:
> Patrick, I wonder if you could outfit your truck with one of those
> fiberglass thingies that are mounted on top of tractor trailers to cut the
> wind? You probably could arrange it so that it was removable at shows and
> meets. apb
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Jankowiak" <recycler@swbell.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 8:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Another 3000 mile trip completed in the M35
>
>
>
>>Marc,
>>
>>I may try next time shifting so that I am lower in the power
>>band. I have been told not to lug it below 1500. I wonder what is
>>the minimum RPM for full throttle?
>>
>>More gears would be great, or actually a higher OD ratio, but
>>they are as they are. Unless I want to spend big $ and have a
>>speed racer like Crazy Tom!
>>
>>On $uch a note, I saw that Memphis equipment stated in their
>>recent MV mag letter "Long history of Cummins Installation" (OCT
>>2004, page 8) that repowering with the engine precipitated "a big
>>price difference". It seemed to imply a better price, but wow!
>>$14K + labor for the job with the 6BT 5.9 engine with HP and 400
>>FT. LB. Torque.
>>
>>I am not saying Memphis does not give you your $ worth, On the
>>contrary, it's a turnkey job and guaranteed. Just too rich for my
>>blood for what the return is. $14K approaches the price (FOB) of
>>'good' eastern block 8x8 wheeled light armor. I'd rather have an
>>OT-64A in my driveway and kit it out for a field MCS/TOC. My
>>dream is an LAV (with tea kettle heater), but never happen.
>>
>>The shelter on the olde M35 stands right at 7' tall, and it's
>>like a square brick, so it would have more resistance. I do have
>>front lockouts, very pleased with them, got me about 1MPG more
>>and I can tell the difference in acceleration.
>>
>>I am not really worried about the mileage (or I would have a
>>regular jeep). So turning up the pump can give better MPG? See I
>>know little about diesels. I don't want to touch the pump, might
>>consider maybe 10% more, but without a pyro I would not dare.
>>
>>Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>Marc Strangfeld wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Patrick
>>>
>>>Our "average/target highway speed" was 53-56 mph
>>>(truck had 11.00 singles) This allowed the engine to
>>>run at a sensible 2200-2300 rpm. When I drive I shift
>>>around 1700-2000 rpm rather than wind it out. This
>>>seems to just barely keep the rpm's in the power band.
>>> I wish the truck had more gears to help with this.
>>>When starting out on a hill or with a load I often
>>>will use the low range in the transfer case
>>>essentially making it a 7 or 8 speed. However you
>>>still have the large jump between 3-4 and 4-5. In
>>>addition to the interaxle removed I also had some
>>>dummy hubs on the front axle. I think this helps a
>>>lot and we all know where to get the selectro hubs if
>>>you want fast and easy access to the front drive axle.
>>>
>>>
>>>In regards to the wind resistance I can't help much.
>>>I thought we would get less mileage due to the newly
>>>installed cargo tarp but I couldn't see a difference.
>>>Your shelter stands taller than a cargo tarp though
>>>doesn't it? I'm not ruling out the fact that the pump
>>>was turned up either. It's not uncommon at all for an
>>>identical truck to get better fuel mileage with more
>>>horsepower.
>>>
>>>I hope this helps. If you can't get better than
>>>7.5-8, I wouldn't be too concerned. That doesn't seem
>>>all that bad.
>>>
>>>Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Patrick Jankowiak <recycler@swbell.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>This is very good information, I am glad you had a
>>>>good trip!
>>>>
>>>>Can you say what your average/target highway speed
>>>>was?
>>>>
>>>>I am trying to think of why I get 7.5-8MPG (yes my
>>>>truck rolls
>>>>easily, it can be pushed by hand) and all I can come
>>>>up with is:
>>>>
>>>>1. wind resistance of the S-280 shelter
>>>>
>>>>2. putting the pedal to the metal always in 3rd,
>>>>4th, and 5th to
>>>>get up to speed (is this a normal thing or am I
>>>>short on power? )
>>>>unlike in a car where there's plenty of extra power
>>>>and one can
>>>>drive conservatively.
>>>>
>>>>3. I have the interaxle shaft installed
>>>>
>>>>Patrick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Marc Strangfeld wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hello
>>>>>
>>>>>Just thought I would let everyone know how the
>>>>
>>>>3000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>mile trip went from Eau Claire, WI to Ouray, CO
>>>>
>>>>this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>year.
>>>>>
>>>>>First of all, if you turn up the pump and plan on
>>>>>working the truck then a pyrometer is needed. I
>>>>
>>>>don't
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>have one yet but I will soon. With the extra fuel
>>>>>being fed to the engine it will get hot and get
>>>>
>>>>hot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>quick. ie, glowing orange turbo and manifold. I
>>>>
>>>>did
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>not have a meltdown but did have to watch how I
>>>>
>>>>drove
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and pullover occasionally to let it cool down.
>>>>>Monarch Pass is around 10 miles of 6% grade from
>>>>>either direction and while spectacular to drive on
>>>>
>>>>it
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>is a great feeling to be at the bottom on the
>>>>
>>>>other
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>side. I stopped at the western side at a towing
>>>>
>>>>place
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>called Doty's Garage to meet the folks that own
>>>>
>>>>it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>(they have local ties to WI and are friends of
>>>>
>>>>someone
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I know) anyway, he has lots of stories about
>>>>
>>>>people
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>who didn't have a good experience on Monarch Pass.
>>>>
>>>>In
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>fact while I was there a guy with a mid nineties
>>>>
>>>>Ford
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>F-250 was getting a qoute on new front brakes. On
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>way down he fried everything, they got so hot the
>>>>>seals in the calipers melted causing them to leak.
>>>>
>>>>In
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>a way I don't feel sorry for him.
>>>>>
>>>>>The truck was set up with freewheeling front hubs,
>>>>>supersingle 11.00's (ndcc), and had the interaxle
>>>>>driveshaft removed. Traction was not a problem as
>>>>>long as I stayed clear of the uneven surfaces as
>>>>
>>>>best
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I could. When we got to Ouray I did put the
>>>>
>>>>splined
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hubs back on and did need them on the steeper
>>>>
>>>>streets
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>and parking lots. One drawback to driving with
>>>>
>>>>the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>interaxle off I found is the middle axle, the one
>>>>
>>>>with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>all the torque going through it wears a lot
>>>>
>>>>quicker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>than the other tires. All the tires before
>>>>
>>>>leaving
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>were 60-70%. Now the fronts are 45-50%, the
>>>>
>>>>middle
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>axle 25%, and the rear about 45-50%. I quess the
>>>>
>>>>old
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hercules does have enough power to burn up a set
>>>>
>>>>of
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>tires. The fronts did not chop near as bad as I
>>>>>expected them to since adjusting the toe in to
>>>>
>>>>around
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>.0625-.100.
>>>>>
>>>>>The truck had two atv's in the bed and the M105
>>>>
>>>>had
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>two atv's on it as well. GVW was an estimated
>>>>
>>>>18,500
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>lbs. The cargo box was set up with bows and
>>>>
>>>>canvas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>also. For mileage we saw anywhere from 8.00 to
>>>>
>>>>9.50
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>mph. This was very good in my opinion and above
>>>>
>>>>my
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>expectations. We drove non stop both ways. It
>>>>
>>>>took 37
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>hours getting there and 32 to get back.
>>>>>
>>>>>We also got pulled over by Johhny Law three times.
>>>>
>>>>>Once on the way out near Fort Carson and twice in
>>>>>Nebraska on the way back. Each time it was night
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>the cops appeared to be bored having tailgating
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>following alongside us for several miles before
>>>>>actually making the stop. Each time they
>>>>
>>>>questioned
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>me on not having plates on the trailer, (WI law
>>>>
>>>>I'm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>pretty sure doesn't require them, but I now will
>>>>
>>>>find
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>out) and an overall, "what the hell are you doing
>>>>
>>>>with
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>this thing?" They were all realitively pleasant
>>>>
>>>>and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>except for wasting my time did not bother me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Overall assessment of the truck now that I'm back
>>>>
>>>>is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>this: four leaking rear hubs , one leaking
>>>>
>>>>injector
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>return line, a leaking front transfer case seal, a
>>>>>leaking compressor base gasket, a leaking oil
>>>>
>>>>filter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>canister base gasket, and a thourough wash job to
>>>>
>>>>get
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>rid of all the oily mess caused by the leaks. I
>>>>>forgot to mention a bald set of tires, four new
>>>>
>>>>holes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>in the cargo canvas, and a horn that works for
>>>>
>>>>#%@!.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On a good note, the new headgaskets aren't
>>>>
>>>>leaking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I'm already looking forward to next year.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sincerely,
>>>>>
>>>>>Marc
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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