From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Fri Nov 19 2004 - 06:34:15 PST
Thats the same thing my wife tells me after a heated debate.
Out of respect for the list I'll drop this, was just checking.
Sonny
----- Original Message -----
From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Vendor's take advantage on Ebay
> It was probably me, but I meant it in the most affectionate way possible.
>
> Your friend,
>
> apb
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>; "m35products"
> <m35prod@optonline.net>
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Vendor's take advantage on Ebay
>
>
> > Mr. Bloom,
> >
> > I have a question for you concerning your comments here and I think I
know
> > the answer but it would require me going through hundreds of emails to
> find
> > it so maybe you can save me a lot of hunting as its been a while back
and
> my
> > memory isn't what it once was so please don't think that I'm attempting
to
> > falsely accuse you of anything, okay? Have you ever assaulted anyone
> > verbally, or would that be typically on email, on this list? Someone
told
> > me to "Shut Up" and I'm NOT saying it was you so thats why I'm asking in
a
> > way as polite as I know how?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Sonny
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 7:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] Vendor's take advantage on Ebay
> >
> >
> > > I understand that the internet is this generation's version of the Old
> > West,
> > > where there are essentially no rules against saying or writing
whatever
> > one
> > > wants to.
> > >
> > > However, this list is not the place for character assassination. If
you
> > have
> > > a perceived or actual civil or criminal complaint against another
> person,
> > > please first settle it in a court within the proper venue and
> > jurisdiction.
> > > Then, by all means, tell us about the outcome, so that we may all hear
> the
> > > official story.
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, I have had several (non Ebay) dealings with the
> > Naglich
> > > company, both selling and buying. In all cases, the deals were
concluded
> > > without a problem.
> > >
> > > As an example of learning about a true story, with adjudication,
within
> > the
> > > military vehicle after-market, try plugging in the name "Sarafan" in a
> > > Google search.
> > >
> > > Arthur P. Bloom, Pres
> > >
> > > www.M35products.com
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <rcakitty@verizon.net>
> > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:18 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [MV] Vendor's take advantage on Ebay
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just so everyone knows who "foxhole joe" is - - Naglich
> Enterprises,St.
> > > Marys,PA - - And, yes, my experience is consistent that voiced, the
> remedy
> > > is, as also previously voiced, don't deal with them. Robert Anderson
> 11/18
> > > > > From: chance wolf <chance_wolf@shaw.ca>
> > > > > Date: 2004/11/18 Thu AM 11:15:19 CST
> > > > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > > > Subject: Re: [MV] Vendor's take advantage on Ebay
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
> > > > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 5:48 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [MV] Vendor's take advantage on Ebay
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > In about two weeks or so he sent me one of the threat mails
> > > > > > about pay or get bad feedback so I wrote again explaining and
sent
> > him
> > > > > > another copy of my emails and he came back saying that he got a
> > > thousand
> > > > > > emails a day and couldn't answer them all and still didn't
answer
> my
> > > > > > questions about prices so I forgot about it and he gave me bad
> > > feedback.
> > > > >
> > > > > When I came across much the same problem with the guy, I figured
it
> > was
> > > > > because he had the settings on his email spamtrap set too high,
and
> it
> > > was
> > > > > somehow excluding all my emails. So I tried from something like
> four
> > > > > different systems with four different addresses (and corresponding
> > IPs),
> > > and
> > > > > still got nowhere. All I wanted to do was provide my shipping
> > > information
> > > > > and pay! He eventually responded - six weeks later - with the
> single
> > > > > sentence "they're not for the HMMWV after all."
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know Foxholejoe from the man-in-the-moon, but as an Ebay
> > > purchaser
> > > > > I'm:
> > > > >
> > > > > a) not willing to court negative feedback simply because people
> don't
> > > read
> > > > > my emails
> > > > > b) not willing to wait six weeks to get any response to my emails
> > > > > c) not willing to wait for people to "get around to shipping it"
> once
> > > > > they've received my instant payment
> > > > > d) not willing to continually second-guess vendor item and
condition
> > > > > descriptions
> > > > >
> > > > > He seems to have a few really bad Ebay feedback entries mentioning
> > some
> > > or
> > > > > all of the above - but he had a lot of halfway decent ones too
from
> > what
> > > I
> > > > > recall. Go figure.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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