From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Fri Nov 19 2004 - 20:56:54 PST
Mr. Bloom,
You know the first thing I would do if I had to put up with that crap
they're putting on you? I would move.
Sonny
----- Original Message -----
From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 10:27 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] registration and laws
> No. You're thinking of the legal premise called "Double Jeopardy" which is
> being TRIED for the same CRIME more than once. That is illegal in this
> country.
>
> A traffic summonse for illegal parking does not accuse you of a crime, and
> local laws spell out how often an illegally-parked vehicle can receive a
> summonse for the same offense. It generally, in NYC, is governed by the
time
> references on the signage at the point of infraction. For instance, if the
> sign says "One Hour Parking..." then the vehicle can be ticketed once an
> hour for any infraction. Even if you are parked legally, if your
inspection
> sticker is lapsed, for example, that's an occurence. If the sign says "No
> Parking 8-11, M W F" and the car has been there all week, then the
summonse
> can be written once on Monday, once on Wednesday, etc.
>
> Each time period is essentially another, separate occurence. In my case, I
> parked LEGALLY, and received two separate summonses, within a short time
> period, for two separate offenses. Being ACCUSED of two occurences of a
> similar infraction is way different from being acquitted of a crime, and
> then tried again for the same crime.
>
> Traffic laws are archaic, complicated, irrational, and most of them were
> written without input from thinkers. They are generally reactive, rather
> than proactive.
>
> Today, I received a parking summonse for parking on the side of a country
> road, facing the wrong way. Is there a special hazard associated with the
> fact that my van was parked with the front facing against oncoming
traffic?
> I don't think so. I parked that way so that I could open the side doors of
> my van, and unload a large reel of cable. The doors are on the right side,
> and there would have been no room to unload if the truck were parked
> "correctly" because there was a large hedge against the truck. I was in
the
> job site for just over ten minutes, and came out to find a ticket for $50.
I
> will fight it, of course, on the basis of commercial delivery necessity.
>
> apb
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryan Gill" <rmgill@mindspring.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 9:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] registration and laws
>
>
> At 8:58 PM -0500 11/19/04, m35products wrote:
> >Just more stupidity from our officials. I got two (illegal) parking
tickets
> >in NYC within twenty minutes of each other. The judge threw out the first
> >one on the merits of the case. When I asked him to do the same with the
> >second, identical ticket, he refused, saying that "Once you got the first
> >ticket, you should have known better, and moved the truck so that you
> >wouldn't have gotten another ticket."
>
> Isn't being charged twice for the same offense a
> bit contrary to basic US legal principles?
>
> --
> --
> Ryan Gill rmgill@SPAMmindspring.com
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