RE: [MV] [armyradios] Group Bidding

From: Glenn Shaw (mpmutt@mtaofnj.us)
Date: Mon Nov 29 2004 - 07:23:05 PST


Way off topic political ramblings.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Grammont [mailto:islander@midmaine.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [MV] [armyradios] Group Bidding

Sonny,

Where have you been living for the last year? It's been frontline news,
which is a surprise since the media tends to not talk much about news worthy
issues. If this was going on under Clinton I expect you'd already be very
aware of this.

>Please furnish proof that Haliburton has lost Millions.

"Lost" is not the right word since the money was "stolen" and therefore
someone at Halliburton knows exactly where it went. Fraud is a lot
different than mismanagement.

>When did this happen and were they found guilty?

It's been going on since their work in the Balkans, but specifically since
last year with respect to Iraq. With this Congress (i.e. the ones currently
attempting rewriting their own ethics laws to cover their leadership's
crimes) and White House (co-run by someone who has a financial interest in
Halliburton), I'm not sure how "guilty" they will be found (they did just
settle with SEC for accounting fraud, BTW), but it looks like they can't
keep the lid on it much longer.

As for "proof", although I generally think it is a bad idea to treat stuff
from Fox as '"fact", I'll go with them this time 'round because I know you
think they are "fair & balanced". First is from October of 2003 (2003, not
2004) when the story first started to break:

<http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100202,00.html>

More recently, i.e. this month:

<http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139730,00.html>

Report on interview with whistleblower who points at far more fundamental
fraud. In this article "the FBI [has] expanded a criminal probe into
allegations Halliburton overcharged the government for fuel, adding
questions about whether the Bush administration improperly awarded business
in Iraq and the Balkans to Halliburton without bidding.":

<http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,139555,00.html>

And this bit from the above article "In a related development, the inspector
general reviewing the spending of U.S. funds in Iraq is recommending the
Army consider withholding 15 percent of Halliburton's money on future
contracts to address allegations the company has not documented all of the
work it has been paid for in the past."

BTW, go to Google and type in "Halliburton, fraud" and you'll find 170,000
other links listed to check out if you so choose. "Halliburton,
overcharging" turns up an additional 19,400).

Steve

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