From: Glenn Shaw (mpmutt@mtaofnj.us)
Date: Thu Dec 09 2004 - 12:09:36 PST
Hi
From what I read on the web page the IDF system is fairly broadband and is
supposed to be effective agaiinst most radio control threats not just cell
phones. They are satisfied that it is a good countermeasure, but like
everything else there will always be something that comes along that changes
the balance.
Glenn
-----Original Message-----
From: Rick v100 [mailto:rickv100@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:53 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Improvised armor for MV in Iraq
it would probably only give a few months reprieve from
IED's but what if they changed the fequencies or shut
down the cell towers of areas with highened IED
activity?
--- Glenn Shaw <mpmutt@mtaofnj.us> wrote:
> Hi Art
> I agree with your post , but of course the Israeli
> Company that makes them
> sells them on the web in various sizes to US
> customers as well. In spite
> of the FCC they are being installed as we speak in restaurants and
> movie theatres covertly by the owners to shut down phones
> in their buildings. I
> guess they sell these jammers/blockers or whatever
> in all different sizes
> depending on the area at hand to cover. MV content
> alert: The IDF use a
> very high powered version with a large externel
> antenna array on the convoy
> protection vehicle to at least prevent most of the
> radio detonated road
> bombs. As we all noted it may stop some of the
> explosions but not all
> types. I have not read that the US is using these
> things over in Iraq in
> the police action going on now to pacify the
> post-war battle area, but I am
> sure that they wouldn't be advertising it if they
> did. (I hope)
>
> Later
> Glenn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: m35products [mailto:m35prod@optonline.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:59 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] Improvised armor for MV in Iraq
>
>
> Many of them use a cell phone wired as the
> detonator-trigger. They can be
> triggered from downtown Cleveland, by simply calling
> the cell #. It would be
> rather difficult to find the caller.
>
> The Isreali product, previously mentioned, is a
> low-power transmitter that
> sends a carrier on the two major control
> frequencies, thereby effectively
> not allowing any cell phone to be able to "find" the
> nearest cell, nor allow
> the cell ti find the telephone. The product
> therefore, is a "blocker" rather
> than a "jammer".
>
> http://www.netline.co.il/VHP.htm
>
> I was a dealer of these blockers, until I got a tersely-worded
> "request" from our beloved government to cease and desist
> selling them. The FCC says
> that not even other branches of the federal
> government such as the FBI, CIA,
> DoD, are allowed to have them. There is an $11,000
> fine just for possessing
> one.
>
> apb
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rick v100" <rickv100@yahoo.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Improvised armor for MV in Iraq
>
>
> > How about instead of jamming doing direction
> finding
> > and trace it back to the source? Huff-Duff comes
> to
> > mind.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
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