From: Fred Schlesinger (MTA) (fred@mtaofnj.us)
Date: Fri Jan 07 2005 - 06:22:07 PST
As usual, Bruce is right, Jim.
I think that everyone who has been subject to this vitriol should get a free subscription, at least,
or, if you want to buy me dinner, that would be ok too. I like steak and lobster.
Seriously, listers should be careful about what they write here. Some of the listers use this list
as part of their business, and almost universally, they are great businessmen, and very customer
service oriented. Some do it full time, some supplement their income, and some are just selling off
a part of their hobby.
And everybody screws up an order sometimes. A persistent lister like Brian, and I'm not saying he
didn't have cause, can do a lot of harm to that business, and, like what happens in the press when
they get a hold of a story, there is no way to regain your reputation.
So Ike is stuck publicly giving away free stuff in an attempt to counteract this bad publicity. He
is between the proverbial rock and a hard place, and he can't win. Where someone like Ike has a big
investment in a product like Mildocs, this is tantamount to extortion.
I'm sure that Brian didn't mean it that way, he was just po'd over 20 bucks, in other words, it was
an argument over principal. Nobody would do all that work for 20 bucks.
Unfortunately for both of them, now that we have heard the whole story, nobody can really tell what
happened, including the principal parties.
So, lets play Judge Judy: I should probably be recused because I once bought some of those brass
stencil sets from Ike several years ago. They were delivered as advertised, and they are NOS and in
perfect condition.
Well here goes: I can't believe that he would risk the kind of bad publicity he got by taking
someone's 20 bucks for nothing. That being said, I also believe that Brian sent the money and was
frustrated that he got nothing. I take judicial notice that emails fill up in an inbox and often
get deleted by accident. I further believe the expert testimony that spam blockers and other
software that are designed to help eliminate spam emails does not work perfectly and sometimes
blocks non spam, especially where those emails contain certain unmentionable four letter words like
"you F___ me and stole my $20" or I'm a gonna come up there and punch you in the F______ nose".
Therefore it is my judgement that this all was an unfortunate accident. I find for the defendant,
not guilty, now go out there and talk to Rusty.
-- Fred
MTA
MVPA
M35A2W/W
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Kalin [mailto:convoy@mtaofnj.us]
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 8:00 AM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Ikes Surplus
Hey Jim,
I once had some bad dealings with a guy named Charlie from Sea Crest
Surplus (I think that was his business name). But, he's off the list and
doesn't sell anymore, as far as I know. Therefor, I have no one else
that I can complain about.
I have to say that I can't think of one thing bad to say about you. I've
never had any bad interactions with you or, your company. I haven't had
any problems with MILDOCS and, I think the premise is great. I think you
are a great business man, in how you have handled the oversights or,
discretion's that were put forth on the list. You did it promptly and
decisively. In fact, you could be a great politician.
Having said that, I am very interested in getting several years of a
free subscription. I thought if I said some nice things to counteract
all of the bad that was going on, it would be appropriate. If that does
not work, do I have to put my name on a list of nasty people? Or, do I
just have to say you screwed up my subscription? (actually, I never had
one). Should I just post some really nasty stuff on the forum? Anything
in particular that I need to say? Could I just say that I was thinking
of getting a subscription, and that you never sent me one? (I really
was). Can I say that you never sent me any e-mail? (You didn't, but why
would you?)
Jim, keep up the great work. From those whom I know, they are more than
happy with your service, which you offer at a very reasonable price. I
really don't do enough buying or, selling to really need the service.
What I buy is very specific to my M35A2C, and it appears that everyone
knows these numbers :-)
Happy New Year
-- Bruce Kalin Convoy coordinator Coordinator@eastcoastconvoy.com http://www.EastCoastConvoy.com USMC MTA, MVPA, MTA NJ, NCMVPA===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
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