From: David Ashley (imjustdave@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Mar 16 2005 - 07:53:19 PST
The same thing they always do......
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Subject: Re: [MV] Invasion OT
WHAT WILL CANADA DO IF CHINA INVADES TAIWAN?????????????????????????????????
Sonny
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From: "Convoy Magazine" <convoymagazine@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [MV] Invasion OT
> Boy this is one subject that gets me and I must agree
> with the comments made previously by others!
>
> 1. China is sucking up the worlds raw materials while
> pretty much (in general terms) conserving theirs.
> HMMM why? When everyone elses resources are eventually
> become low, China will still have lots of there own to
> fall back on. (strategic concern)
>
> (EG.I have seen several photos showing absolute clear
> cutting deforestation of neighbouring countries to
> feed Chinese demand. The barren hills lead to a sharp
> demarcation where lush forest begins...China. Also as
> mentioned by others in this thread, scrap steel, and
> oil prices are going higher all the time because of
> Chinese demand)
>
> 2. Several clothing mills in Canada have recently been
> bankrupted by Chinese production, closed down,
> thousands of jobs lost. The mighty (Cdn-based) Bata
> shoes, closing all Canadian stores due to same. China,
> having purchased a US battery maker a couple of years
> ago became the world 3rd largest battery supplier
> (prety important concern methinks). China just
> obtained an important part of IBM.....
>
> Anyway, the two points here are: once the Chinese have
> eliminated competition (and weakened Western economies
> through job loss), what do you think will happen to
> prices? and two, strategic concerns.
>
> 3. (an aside) when looking in a hardware store (big
> chain type) I asked young sales person.."yeah but
> don't you have this item made in Canada?" reply- "Oh
> we don't make anything here anymore." Yikes! but
> almost true!
>
> 4.By saving a few cents in the short term buying
> Chinese made stuff, we are doing ourselves SERIOUS
> longterm damage..economically, and perhaps
> strategically. As much as possible I avoid buying
> Chinese stuff and buy Cdn or US. The little extra that
> costs is, to me, well worth it to keep my country's
> economy afloat and my own countrymen working.
>
> 5.Strategically, China is building a vast, and very
> modern military, and even if it's not the 1st rate
> high tech stuff the US has, to use a metaphor: as
> proven in WWII, a thousand 2nd rate tanks, can easily
> defeat a few hundred 1st rate tanks, (planes,
> missiles, whatever)
>
> 6 Prediction: If China invades Taiwan, the US will
> huff and puff but do nothing.
>
> Your thoughts?
>
>
>
>
> --- Stephen Grammont <islander@midmaine.com> wrote:
> > Fortunately to screw with the US Dollar means near
> > certain economic
> > collapse for China. And economic collapse would
> > likely lead to
> > political implosion. So it would appear unlikely
> > that they would dump
> > the Dollar simply because it would be suicide. The
> > real threat is if
> > the Chinese start using something less than this as
> > leverage in an
> > overt way like the US did to the UK many years ago
> > over the Suez
> > Crisis. In other words, "we can do this and it
> > might hurt us, but it
> > for sure will hurt you a lot more".
> >
> > Joe wrote:
> >
> > " It seems that our government is blind to the
> > matter. "
> >
> > According to conservative thinking, government
> > should not only be blind
> > but gagged and tied up in locked closet. And in a
> > free market economy
> > this is, for the most part, the way it should be
> > (i.e. government
> > keeping its fingers out of the market system), as
> > opposed to the more
> > liberal point of view where government meddles in
> > pretty much
> > everything. But both points of view are off the
> > mark because
> > government is not the problem with the trade deficit
> > and its ill
> > effects... the consumer/voter is. It is the
> > consumer that made WalMart
> > bigger than General Motors, not the government.
> > Government isn't out
> > there shopping at 2am to get the best bargains
> > (though neither
> > government of the consumer is spending within its
> > means <g>). It is
> > the consumer that demands "lowest prices" and yet
> > bitches about how
> > their jobs are being shipped overseas. And it is
> > the consumer, as
> > voter, that doesn't require its politicians to do
> > things like balancing
> > the budget, paying down the deficit instead of
> > giving out tax breaks,
> > and signing FAIR trade instead of "free trade"
> > treaties.
> >
> > One thing can be said... this inbalance can't go on
> > forever in this
> > direction.
> >
> > Steve (a devout capitalist who still finds ways to
> > NOT shop at Wal-Mart)
> >
> >
> > On Mar 15, 2005, at 11:42 PM, Mil-Veh Co. wrote:
> >
> > > Yep, China has got us by the greenbacks and they
> > could
> > > send us into economic Hell at a moments
> > > notice...course it would hurt them too, big time I
> > > suspect, but then the Chinese are used to
> > adversity,
> > > not so sure about the typical American. I'm
> > thinking
> > > Americans are pretty soft at this point. The big
> > > question is when will China go for Taiwan...think
> > I
> > > better sell my 10 shares of Walmart stock before
> > the
> > > shooting starts!
> > >
> > >
> > > --- JoeYoungInc@aol.com wrote:
> > >> Good post, but I wonder how long it would take
> > China
> > >> to overwhelm
> > >> us, the USA, and crush all of our high tech US
> > mil
> > >> equipment?
> > >> To me, it's inevitable. We presently have a one
> > >> hundred and sixty-billion
> > >> dollar trade deficit with China. We are helping
> > them
> > >> to become the #1 World
> > >> Power. Their industry is so great and demanding
> > >> they're building the world's
> > >> largest hydroelectric plant. China is largely
> > >> responsible for the demand on crude
> > >> oil and the price increases. It seems that our
> > >> government is blind to the
> > >> matter. They're building drive-in theaters in
> > China,
> > >> because more and more people
> > >> there can afford cars now. The smaller countries
> > >> they overtake are probably just
> > >> stepping stones in their plan for us. Most people
> > >> here don't realize what
> > >> they're doing by constantly purchasing China made
> > >> products and its ripple effect
> > >> on us and our industries.
> > >> Joe
> > >>
> > >
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