From: m35products (m35prod@optonline.net)
Date: Thu Mar 24 2005 - 16:07:43 PST
Of course they are bidding the prices up. One would have to be a complete
idiot to think otherwise. They are criminals, just like some other
departments of our extended government. (Would you buy a used truck from the
IRS or the INS?)
What the feds ought to do is hire GL to put the stuff on Ebay, with no
reserve, and see what happens. In that way, there would be (relatively) open
disclosure of the bidding process.
As far as the recent comments about who is buying at inflated prices, etc,
the answer is: there are many people out there who still are thinking in the
"$50 Jeep" mind set. They do not have the benefit of this forum, and are
probably ignorant of the vast wealth of info in the magazines to which we
all subscribe.
A Google search for "military surplus trucks" yields 160,000 websites.
Military Vehicles Magazine is not on the first three pages of hits. Nor is
the MVPA. The GL is mentioned as the fourth hit on the first page.
It's a case of marketing, and selling to rubes, that is the reason for GL's
success.
APB
----- Original Message -----
From: "JEFF HAIN-MATSON" <flmv@flmv.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] No bargains at auctions like G/L's - I don't get it...
>
>
> MV wrote:
>
> > There are some things going on in this GL market that I really don't
> > understand.
> >
> >
> >
> > Can GL bid up their own auctions???
>
> Well you have just hit a very interesting point. They (GL) claim they
don't do
> this....... But since they have always refused to make bidder info public,
(DRMS
> had no problems making bidder info public, and anybody who bid knew that
the info
> was public, and as a "partner" of the Government you would think that the
freedom
> if information act would help, but it doesn't) one can only imagine that
they do
> in fact "run up" items they sell. At least at a live auction you can see
the shill
> bidders!! GL can claim they don't electronically shill bid till they are
blue in
> the face, but since they will never make bidder info public they will
never be
> able to prove that they don't do it. One can only hope they loose the
contract in
> a few years, but since congress didn't want to hear about it when lots of
us
> complained originally I doubt it will change in the future.
>
>
>
> > I haven't read their fine print
> > sufficiently to know whether that is possible or not according to their
> > terms. Something simply doesn't smell right.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
>
> --
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